Good spot to Semi Bluff ??

Gustavo · #1 12-12-2005, 11:10 AM

Been playing with villian for two orbits , he tryed to make a move on me once wich i caught , besides that seems ok.

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UTG ($302.35)
MP ($64.30)
Hero ($242.50)
SB ($177.75)
BB ($367.30)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
2 folds, Hero raises to $8, SB raises to $16, 1 fold, Hero calls $8.

Flop: ($34) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets $20, Hero calls $20.

Turn: ($74) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets $20, Hero raises to $70

Anyone likes this? or this is chip donation?

MTBlue · #2 12-12-2005, 11:19 AM

NO

HardCory · #3 12-12-2005, 12:10 PM

Yeah i definately think this is a chip donation. I dont mind the call on the flop but let it go on the turn. Your not even drawing to the nut flush let alone the board is uncoordinated. Semi bluff with nut draws and more outs. Reconsider his starting hand requirements..... I dont understand this play at all

george w of poker · #4 12-12-2005, 01:47 PM

I play it the same way sometimes. I see the weak lead on the turn and think they're weak; and a lot of the time they are. But, you are getting immediate odds to draw so maybe take them without a read.

Gustavo · #5 12-12-2005, 01:50 PM

I read him as weak , a orbit ago he attempted to steal me, and also took this weak line\aproach , villian capable of making a move

swolfe · #6 12-12-2005, 01:54 PM

i sort of like it, but i think i'd rather take the excellent price to hit my draw. you can always bluff at the river when he checks to you and you miss [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Marlow · #7 12-12-2005, 02:20 PM

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Seems like a good move that should be used against a different opponent. You need someone who's tighter and more conservative to get away with this. Do you know that he's adjusting a lot based on recent hands? Because otherwise, it seems as though he's to agg for this to work most of the time.

If you are hell-bent on semi-bluffing this hand, I think the flop is your big chance. He's betting weak, and the bluff is cheaper overall if he goes over the top of you and forces you to fold.

Gustavo · #8 12-12-2005, 02:25 PM

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I read him as weak , a orbit ago he attempted to steal me, and also took this weak line\aproach , villian capable of making a move

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Seems like a good move that should be used against a different opponent. You need someone who's tighter and more conservative to get away with this. Do you know that he's adjusting a lot based on recent hands? Because otherwise, it seems as though he's to agg for this to work most of the time.

If you are hell-bent on semi-bluffing this hand, I think the flop is your big chance. He's betting weak, and the bluff is cheaper overall if he goes over the top of you and forces you to fold.

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Good point 100% Agree, altought delaying the semibluff to the turn show´s more strenght.

bizaff · #9 12-12-2005, 02:57 PM

2 things have me worried:

He min-raised pre-flop - that's more likely to put AK in his possible holdings, especially after the weakish leads. If he has that, your Q outs are no good.

As played, he has to call $50 into a $164 pot - better than 3:1. Would you play TPTK/2 pair/set this way?

If you're going to raise, make it a real raise, which unfortunately commits you. This leads me to think the flop may be a better place for this.