Playing live = great aid to playing online.

[AlexSem]

Playing live is a very good idea [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

I myself have been an online player for a little over a year and never really bothered with playing live, it's smaller stakes, it's less money and it's somehow a lot more aggravating to lose money out of your pocket.


Well it's one of those obvious epiphanies but playing online is greatly aided by playing live. How?

1. You learn the value of tells and player tendencies a lot better and are a lot more likely to start making notes online as a result

2. You have the time to analyze each hand to it's bare bones. That's something I have simply not done for the past 6 months. I never had the time. I am 4 or 6 tabling and I am just grinding it out, not really thinking too deep into it. Live games allow you to sit and dwell if you've played correctly, how you coulda played differently etc.


I am sure there are other reasons I've missed, such as those cute chips splashing and free drinks brought to you, but let's get the ball rolling, I haven't seen a thread like this in um, too long.

Please share your opinions, experiences, stories [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[TimM]

Definitely. When I was starting out, I would often play higher limits live than I ever played online. I think this is helpful preparation for moving up online.

[skp]

I flopped a set in Vegas last month and yelled out as I do at home "yeah, baby, yeah". For some reason, my bet was then followed by a string of folds.

Playing online = not so great an aid to playing live...heh

As for comparing the two, it's like apples and oranges.

In a way, I wish I had never started playing online despite the obvious increase in profitability.

Firstly, online poker is pretty mechanical and boring when mutitabling. But having played online, playing live (and getting dealt 35 hands an hour) is now extremely aggravating. The result is that I no longer enjoy playing poker like I used to as recently as 16 months ago.

In fact, I spent all of October in Australia. No real poker save for a short 2 hour session in a 20-40 game in Melbourne ($10 rake!) and a 1 hour 10-20 session in Sydney ($1 a hand which effectively makes it a $35 hourly charge!). Normally, after a vacation, I am chomping at the bit to get back into the game. But this time, I have been back home for 2 weeks now but simply have not had the urge to play any poker at all.

Maybe I do need to get out and play some live poker tonight to get the juices flowing again.

[UprightCreature]

Because the game is so much slower live and I'm spending all my down time carefully watching the action and thinking about what my oponents think I play much better live. When I'm playing online I have multiple tables going and still find myself thinking about poker a lower % of the time. Its not so much that live play helps my online play as it is that I strive to bring the quality of my live play to my online game. I also find myself enjoying live play more than online. Too bad even with twice the winrate/100 and twice the stakes live I still make more online. [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

[Lawrence Ng]

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Maybe I do need to get out and play some live poker tonight to get the juices flowing again.


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So how many times do you intend to raise the turn with your top fullhouse of 6's full on the turn if the situation comes up again? [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

Lawrence

[bottomset]

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I flopped a set in Vegas last month and yelled out as I do at home "yeah, baby, yeah". For some reason, my bet was then followed by a string of folds.

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haha

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In fact, I spent all of October in Australia. No real poker save for a short 2 hour session in a 20-40 game in Melbourne ($10 rake!) and a 1 hour 10-20 session in Sydney ($1 a hand which effectively makes it a $35 hourly charge!). Normally, after a vacation, I am chomping at the bit to get back into the game. But this time, I have been back home for 2 weeks now but simply have not had the urge to play any poker at all.

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wow that is a terrible rake structure, I hope it doesn't get that bad in the US

I played at the commerce/L.A. 40/80 back in the early 99 to 01 a few times a month.

Playing live limit holdem was horrible. Sure the food and drinks were free. But after a session, you're clothe would stick of smoke (back when it was allowed).

You get all sorts of attitude from player and dealers. Cards flying off the table. Deck change requests from some jerk steaming. Misdeal. Pitboss coming over to break up arguments and fights. Long drives home after a long and losing session from the casino. It just sucked!

Online, while relatively boring grinding in isolation, is so much more environment friendly. You can multitask while waiting for good hands.

I would never be able to play live 2 or 3 hours everyday like the way I do online.

[skp]

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So how many times do you intend to raise the turn with your top fullhouse of 6's full on the turn if the situation comes up again?

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Hehe...boy, the tongues are always wagging at that place, aren't they?

But as usual, the details get botched as time goes on. My memory of hands played live is however pretty damn good ...if I say so myself...heh...the hand was played about 10 months ago.

30-60 game. I limp UTG with 66. Michael L (widely recognized to be the best Vancouver player) limps behind me with 55. Patrick (older oriental gentleman) raises behind him. Both blinds call. 5 way action.

Flop: 655 rainbow

Big blind bets out. 3 calls and small blind folds.

Turn: King

Big blind bets. Of course, I like the King as it may have hit Patrick. I consider raising because I think he calls two cold with AK but I had a peek at him and felt that maybe he wasn't all that strong. So, I just smoothcall again.

Surprisingly, Micheal also just smoothcalls on the turn. If I were him, I would definitely have raised with my quads there given that 2 players ahead of him had already put in a bet. Patrick calls.

River: Jack (no flush possible)

bb checks. I bet. Michael raises. Others fold. I 3 bet. he 4 bets.

At this point, I blundered. I should have just called but I put in a 5th bet and called a 6th bet. I even recall pausing and thinking about it after the 4th bet. I thought "he couldn't have KK or JJ, I doubt he has 55 because he didn't raise the turn, so it must be KJ. I'll 5 bet). But I obviously forgot to consider the obvious: That Michael would have trouble making it 4 bets with KJ - not to mention the fact that he prolly would not call the flop with KJ.

So, my inability to properly analyze the hand cost me 2 bets.

But I am sure that the story that is making the rounds is that I lost my car keys on this hand...heh

ciao, bud

[jennifer29]

I vote you play live exclusively, leave online to those who are unemployable. I'm playing Thurs P/L and Sat N/L, you wanna swap 2%. Ttyl. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]