Commerce 20/40 NL Hand - Page 2

arod4276 · #11 08-25-2005, 04:27 AM

One outer?

Big_Jim · #12 08-25-2005, 04:49 AM

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One outer?

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[sarcasm]Obviously. You think villian is raising the flop without the made flush?[/sarcasm]

dibbs · #13 08-25-2005, 05:25 AM

He has the K it really doesnt matter either way no matter how good he is. ni han

Big_Jim · #14 08-25-2005, 05:28 AM

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He has the K it really doesnt matter either way no matter how good he is

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Read the results.

Rococo · #15 08-25-2005, 06:00 AM

I don't understand the flop line here at all. What hand are you representing after you lead for $60 into a $280 pot and then flat call a raise?

FourKing Hell · #16 08-25-2005, 08:25 AM

A medium made flush that doesn't want to play for 300 BB's?

LetYouDown · #17 08-25-2005, 08:53 AM

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It was supposed to be a nice payday, but I only got half of what I was owed. The villain did not pay me off with his K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].

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Because he didn't have it or because he laid it down? If he laid it down, you must have a ridiculously obvious tell of some kind.

37offsuit · #18 08-25-2005, 09:25 AM

I can't see Villian calling you here. There are two possible limp hands that you could have that beat the K and the only other hand you have is one with the Q. You don't play the Q this way, obviously you just call on the end, not push in another 6K. So you need to get more in on the turn where he might still make you for a weaker hand with outs. Then he either puts you all in after your weak river bet or raises enough so that what you have left he's committed to call with the K. If he has the Q, you probably lose him earlier though.

gomberg · #19 08-25-2005, 10:11 AM

Man, you hit your money card on the turn. LEAD for a big bet! I see this so often... so many people leave money on the table. If he has a set, he'll probably call. If he has the K, he'll probably raise. You have to build the pot when you have a monster w/ pretty deep stacks, and the best way to do that is to lead...

EDIT: Just saw the results - if you build this pot on the turn, your chances of stacking him off increase by 100%. With deeps stacks against a good player, it DOES matter (to all those posters who said if he has the K it doesn't).

#20 08-25-2005, 10:18 AM

I don't know what his hand was exactly, but he most certainly did have the K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. I do not have any rediculous tell. The more I think about it the less I am amazed about his fold. I could not have made that play with anything else so it is a sensible fold, but it was still a great fold. He told me he almost flat called my 1,500 bet.