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Old 05-26-2005, 09:42 AM
elus2 elus2 is offline
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Default QQ hand

Live 3-6 game 9 handed

SB is LAG preflop, passive post with ~$180
UTG is LAG preflop, aggro post with ~$300

I'm dealt QQ in MP and i have them covered.

UTG raises to 12, I raise to 60, they both call.

flop is 8 6 2, 2 clubs. SB pushes. UTG pushes. What's your move?

edit: supposed to be 9 handed
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Old 05-26-2005, 10:16 AM
chok1 chok1 is offline
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Default Re: QQ hand

Even though you have an overpair, you're probably not the favorite at the flop. they might be holding a club draw or also trips, which would definitely put you at a disadvantage. I don't like the $60 reraise, it already looks like you're trying to steal (or takedown) the pot preflop which you probably were. If I saw that I would call or reraise with my 8's maybe 6's depending on how long i've been playing against you. I think you overplayed your queens and a fold would definitely be in order after 2 all-ins. 1 all-in i might call depending on opponent but 2 all-ins is to me a definite fold.
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Old 05-26-2005, 11:00 AM
wslee00 wslee00 is offline
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Default Re: QQ hand

if both players are LAG as you say they are, I see no issues with that pre-flop re-raise - they could be raising with anything. Those live games have some crazy people in them. I've even seen someone raise $15 pre-flop with 6 4 offsuit in a 1/2 NL game
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Old 05-26-2005, 11:50 AM
elus2 elus2 is offline
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Default Re: QQ hand

what range of hands do you think they can have at this point that makes it a clear fold? take into consideration that sb is shortstacked and utg is aggro/somewhat bad.
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Old 05-26-2005, 11:54 AM
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Default Re: QQ hand

I pretty much instacall - SB is only pushing for a pot size bet, if UTG dude is aggro postflop he could easily be just trying to shunt you out with his tptk or similar. Especially given it's live poker, I feel the idiot-factor makes it an easy call.
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Old 05-26-2005, 01:52 PM
piki piki is offline
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Default Re: QQ hand

At least one of them is most likely on the flsh drw, maybe both. I am going to pay off any set here and continue to play with them any chance I get. I dont see AA/KK, why would they call the 60 preflop in a multiway pot.

My money is on AK and JJ, maybe both AK.
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