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Old 12-07-2005, 10:25 PM
Matt Flynn Matt Flynn is offline
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anyone with success in multiple business areas? a lot of these guys gamble in business as in cards, and some have to hit.
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Old 12-07-2005, 11:09 PM
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Off the top of my head, Dan Harrington (though you get into the old argument of whether someone who makes the bulk of their money outside poker is a pro, as I believe though am not positive Dan does).

I think the two you mention, and many others that will leap to the top of conversation, are good at marketing themselves and getting endorsements. Though I certainly understand the importance of marketing in business, I tend to rate management and financial skills higher (and the quant side of marketing as opposed to the sales/PR side). Negreanu may well have more on the ball here than I am aware of, since I don't really follow him very much.

Given that, I would not rate Hellmuth anywhere near the top. I don't think he really understands a lot of sophisticated business concepts. Also, it utterly amazes me how someone can be so risk averse in tournaments (to the point of making horrible "business" decisions) yet so risk embracing with regard to staking people.

Edit - just read your reply where you say you are really looking for people who market themselves well, so my post is pretty off your topic, but I ain't deleting it!
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Old 12-08-2005, 12:08 AM
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All these responses, and no nods for Amarillo Slim, who, until the whole molesting-his-own-granddaughter thing, was essentially the Hulk Hogan of poker. He was a famous poker player when there were no famous poker players(though probably more for his prop betting).
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Old 12-08-2005, 12:39 AM
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All these responses, and no nods for Amarillo Slim, who, until the whole molesting-his-own-granddaughter thing, was essentially the Hulk Hogan of poker. He was a famous poker player when there were no famous poker players(though probably more for his prop betting).

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If we are talking about people who did the least to earn the most fame, Slim gets the nod. Beyond that, I doubt whatever fame and success he acquired by marketting his own image can even compare to the others mentioned in this thread. We can give him the honorary tilte: Godfather of Poker Self-Promotion if you like.

Too bad Diablo excluded Bobby Baldwin from the discussion because that dude is a hero.
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Old 12-08-2005, 06:18 AM
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Your new avatar is freaking awesome.
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Old 12-08-2005, 06:42 AM
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Lyle Berman

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Old 12-08-2005, 11:46 AM
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I get the impression that Ray Zee was able to take his professional poker playing into investment areas that have been very lucrative.
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Old 12-08-2005, 12:18 PM
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I don't think anyone has mentioned Lyle Berman yet. That guy is loaded.
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Old 12-08-2005, 01:24 PM
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I don't think anyone has mentioned Lyle Berman yet. That guy is loaded.

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lyle berman isn't a pro and didn't make his money playing poker.
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Old 12-08-2005, 03:25 PM
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KB4: Yes, equity in a successful online poker site is pure gold.

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Well between his book and Pokerstars, would I dare say...gulp...Lee Jones.
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