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Old 08-07-2005, 06:45 PM
Erik Blazynski Erik Blazynski is offline
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Default Re: Resteal by a solid opponent

SNGs are way to fast to be blowing half of your stack on a call like this. You are a dog to any pair and any Ace. Just get rid of it. You are not desperate, just fold and be done with it.
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Old 08-07-2005, 06:47 PM
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Default Re: Resteal by a solid opponent

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SNGs are way to fast to be folding in +EV situations.

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Old 08-07-2005, 06:48 PM
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Default Re: Resteal by a solid opponent

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SNGs are way to fast to be blowing half of your stack on a call like this.

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its like halfway through the sentence i was with you and then you stopped making any sense.

sngs having a fast structure is another reason this is a call. how would the fast structure discourage a slight +cEV call here? it doesn't follow.
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Old 08-07-2005, 06:55 PM
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Default Re: Resteal by a solid opponent

I think that is a really weak-tight and short sighted statement/response.

It does not matter how you got yourself into a position in poker, it only matters what the proper decision in the moment is. Right now you are getting the opporunity to call 845 chips to win 1870, that is 2.21:1. This call is going to somewhat cripple you if you lose, but you will not be super short. You will retain fold equity if you lose, which is the most important aspect of this hand.

Your hand is good, and you are in fantastic shape if you wind up racing in a pair. Yes he could have you crushed, big deal. Hopefully you'll suck out and have some guy calling you a donk for calling his push getting 2.21:1. Sucks to be him, he can load of a new SNG.

Fortune favors the bold.
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Old 08-07-2005, 07:03 PM
Erik Blazynski Erik Blazynski is offline
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Well my point is that chips are precious in a SNG. If you've got em, there is no reason to call off half of them when you are at BEST a slight dog. If you are calling off 1/4 of your stack here, then I call. But I place a higher value on number of chips than I do on EV in a SNG tournament. Another point is that your odds are what they are, they aren't getting any better at any point in this hand. This is just not a scenario that I would ever be excited about. But I also play every game like the prize is a million dollars, so I am likely a but more cautious.
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Old 08-07-2005, 07:05 PM
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You are losing money in the long run by playing in such a fashion imo.
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Old 08-07-2005, 07:06 PM
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Default Re: Resteal by a solid opponent

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This call is going to somewhat cripple you if you lose, but you will not be super short. You will retain fold equity if you lose, which is the most important aspect of this hand.


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At what point do you lose fold equity? How low does your xBB have to fold when you reach the point of losing FE?
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Old 08-07-2005, 07:10 PM
Erik Blazynski Erik Blazynski is offline
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I play the lower limits, 11 and 22, and I have to say that there are very few players that are paying attention, maybe about 3 of the 9 players. half of them are playing other games. Table image only doesn't play as much as it does in a live game.
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Old 08-07-2005, 07:11 PM
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I'd say 6-7xbb is the "red alert" stage of SNG aggression where you have FE versus people. Of course I think you still retain FE with 4-5xbb but people's calling ranges are going to get way wider.
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Old 08-07-2005, 07:12 PM
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It is those 3 out of the 9 you have to be worried about [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]
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