Strange hand, went on reads.

[winky51]

***** Hand History for Game 2706769946 *****
$100 NL Hold'em - Tuesday, September 13, 21:34:53 EDT 2005
Table Table 36934 (6 max) (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 2: DUDE-1 ( $113 )
Seat 5: DUDE-2 ( $100 )
Seat 1: HERO ( $147.66 )
Seat 3: DUDE-3 ( $138.45 )
Seat 6: BLUFFER ( $43.20 )
Seat 4: UNKNOWN_PLAYER ( $98 )
UNKNOWN_PLAYER posts small blind [$0.50].
DUDE-2 posts big blind [$1].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ As Js ]

**** Figured I'd change it up some been raising a lot.

BLUFFER calls [$1].
HERO calls [$1].
DUDE-1 folds.
DUDE-3 folds.
UNKNOWN_PLAYER calls [$0.50].
DUDE-2 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 6s, Jh, Th ]
UNKNOWN_PLAYER checks.
DUDE-2 checks.
BLUFFER bets [$2].
HERO raises [$7].

**** BLUFFER bets a lot draws. But I wanted to know if UNKNOWN had 2 pair or a str8/flush draw. He thought just enough about the flop to worry me. I figure if he goes over the top I fold. DUDE-2 is the BB so Im not worried random hand.

UNKNOWN_PLAYER calls [$7].

**** I suspect draw.

DUDE-2 folds.
BLUFFER raises [$23].

**** He took no time to think just raised a random amount. He did the same thing before on another draw, bet, got raised, then reraise big. Does the same thing on the bluff.

HERO is all-In [$139.66]

**** Pushed to isolate bluffer and not give pot odds for the other draw.

UNKNOWN_PLAYER is all-In [$90]

**** This worried me.

BLUFFER is all-In [$17.20]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Qc ]
** Dealing River ** [ Ah ]

[winky51]

BLUFFER shows [ 8h, 6h ] a flush, ace high.
HERO shows [ As, Js ] two pairs, aces and jacks.
UNKNOWN_PLAYER doesn't show [ Jd, Td ] two pairs, jacks and tens.
HERO wins $49.66 from side pot #2 with two pairs, aces and jacks.
HERO wins $109.60 from side pot #1 with two pairs, aces and jacks.
BLUFFER wins $127.60 from the main pot with a flush, ace high.


I got bluffer right but I thought that the unknown player his hand wrong. 2 draws on the board and I raised. I would figure a reraise is in order forcing the bluffer out.

Am I wrong by his play or my play and deductions? I felt him just calling the flop and if bluffer just called he just gave him odds.

So unknown would have against him 3x aces, 9x hearts, 2x 6s, and 2 backdoor straights. Realisitcally I would think in his position 9 flush outs, 3 overs, and 1 outs for the backdoor. A total of 13 outs which is almost even. I would reraise forcing everyone else out to win right there if I had JT 2 pair.

Thoughts?

[hukilai]

Why to get crazy with TPTK only with unknown in the hand?

Call and see the turn.

Before looking to the answers

my guests for hands are:

Bluffer - JT
Unknown - KTh

[winky51]

Well the bluffer bets a lot of draws so I wanted to isolate him. Also I had been raising a lot with good aces, this time I limped so I figured he thought I had a crap J kicker. If he had 2 pair he would have pushed. Been watching his play for 1 hour. He was pretty predictable in his actions. Unknown was the real problem but I figured if he did have 2 pair or a set he would reraise me on the flop and I would get off only losing $7.