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#1
09-03-2005, 12:51 AM
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Capping the flop with the nut flush draw? (boring)
How many of you play this hand this way?
Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is MP with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, BB calls, UTG calls. Flop: (12.33 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, BB calls, UTG calls. 
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#2
09-03-2005, 12:53 AM
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Re: Capping the flop with the nut flush draw? (boring)
Boring.
How else do you play it? You've got plenty of equity three-handed. Cap is probably for value and may buy you a free card. You're As and K's are good here a whole bunch of the time. Nice hand.
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#5
09-03-2005, 01:36 AM
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Re: Capping the flop with the nut flush draw? (boring)
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You're As and K's are good here a whole bunch of the time. [/ QUOTE ] Did you not see that UTG limp/reraised us here? I am not comfortable with my ace or king outs. Reads would be helpful from OP. (ie. is BB a total donk or could he be sitting on a set here?)
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#6
09-03-2005, 01:38 AM
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Re: Capping the flop with the nut flush draw? (boring)
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[ QUOTE ] You're As and K's are good here a whole bunch of the time. [/ QUOTE ] Did you not see that UTG limp/reraised us here? I am not comfortable with my ace or king outs. Reads would be helpful from OP. (ie. is BB a total donk or could he be sitting on a set here?) [/ QUOTE ] A'ight... so maybe they're not that good. They don't have to be. Whatever. It's all gravy, baby.
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#7
09-03-2005, 01:56 AM
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Re: Capping the flop with the nut flush draw? (boring)
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Reads would be helpful from OP. (ie. is BB a total donk or could he be sitting on a set here?) [/ QUOTE ] Read on UTG UTG joined the table after I sat down. He bought in short at 132.50 (telling me it's his whole account balance). He posted BB as the CO on his first hand. He did show down a limp re-raise once and showed J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. Though he check-called when he missed the flop. His VPIP was 64%. Read on BB BB a donk. He had a stat of 54% VPIP. He started the hand shortstacked with $61.19 that seemed to be all he had. Here is a good example of his donkish-ness. He is the <font color="red">small blind</font> in this hand: Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (6 max, 4 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is BB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. UTG posts a blind of $4. UTG (poster) checks, Button calls, SB completes, Hero checks. Flop: (4.33 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks, Button checks. Turn: (2.16 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks, Button checks. River: (2.16 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, SB calls, Hero folds, UTG folds. Final Pot: 4.16 BB Results below: SB has 6c 9h (one pair, jacks). <font color="red"> Why did he call the river with nine high?</font> Button has Ah 6s (one pair, jacks). Outcome: Button wins 4.16 BB.
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#8
09-03-2005, 02:44 AM
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Re: Capping the flop with the nut flush draw? (boring)
This is why reads are soooo important to playing hands.
With no reads I think capping is a clear mistake, with these in mind though, it's not terrible.
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#9
09-03-2005, 02:48 AM
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Re: Capping the flop with the nut flush draw? (boring)
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This is why reads are soooo important to playing hands. With no reads I think capping is a clear mistake, with these in mind though, it's not terrible. [/ QUOTE ] No. Capping can never be a mistake, even with reads. Note, if we have a tight read on villain, it means he's probably not that likely to be limp reraising JJ or another hand that hit a set here. Hence, our flush outs are more pure on the flop. So we cap the flop for value. If we have a loose/aggro read on villain, he's more likely to have a set on the flop, but we're also more likely to have clean A and K outs. So we cap the flop for value. If you're talking about pre-flop the cap is good because often the limp reraise is with suited connectors or trash, and there are other players involved who likely have trash that we are thrashing.
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#10
09-03-2005, 01:28 PM
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Re: Capping the flop with the nut flush draw? (boring)
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This is why reads are soooo important to playing hands. With no reads I think capping is a clear mistake, with these in mind though, it's not terrible. [/ QUOTE ] I agree with W. Deranged. Capping is never a mistake here.
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