Buying the button with TT - Page 3

BarronVangorToth · #21 09-30-2005, 05:57 PM

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When I have TT and its been raised in front of me there are times I will fold it, times I will call it, and times I will reraise with it depending on what I want to accomplish and who I am up against.

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I agree. There are some situations where you would call or fold.

Absolutely nothing about this post provides the information that would make this correct to call or fold.

WAS this a situation to call or fold? I don't know. From the information given, it's a raise.

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astroglide · #22 09-30-2005, 06:06 PM

i definitely like calling better than reraising here preflop

amulet · #23 09-30-2005, 07:32 PM

how can you be so adament about raising here? the utg rasier is a tag, 2 callers. i posted my math earlier. and i disagree about the raise. but i would like to hear what you see that i do not. to me a raise here has a clear neg ev. please elaborate on your thoughts.

steveyz · #24 09-30-2005, 07:37 PM

One less cold caller and I think it calls for a 3-bet. In this situation, I usually lean towards just calling preflop.

Klepton · #25 09-30-2005, 07:38 PM

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wow. i thought this was just incredibly standard preflop play. maybe i'm wrong?

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hands that UTG would raise AK-AJ, AA-88, other random junk (shania)

i 3-bet everytime.

amulet · #26 09-30-2005, 10:10 PM

not a good player is he raise with those. he was described as tag. therefore, i think there are a lot fewer hands he raises with utg.

BarronVangorToth · #27 10-02-2005, 12:32 AM

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hands that UTG would raise AK-AJ, AA-88, other random junk (shania)

i 3-bet everytime.

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Before you even get to the "junk," you have hands you should open-raise with UTG in these types of games:

A10s, KQs, KJs, and KQo. PLUS the aforementioned "junk" that they just felt like raising to mix up their game / they are bored / they aren't as good as you think.

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BarronVangorToth · #28 10-02-2005, 12:36 AM

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i posted my math earlier.

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You can generate all sorts of stats to show all sorts of things.

You can go into any problem with a predetermined notion and gets the results you want from it - but the results won't include the important variable of position and proper post-flop play with it.

Both of which are served I believe best via the three-bet.

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rigoletto · #29 10-03-2005, 12:40 PM

Thanks for the replies. A couple of comments:

I wasn't determined when I posted the hand but after thinking about it I like the preflop 3-bet simply because it gives me more options. I would like it more with a 5 way (or bigger) pot, but I think putting in one extra bet preflop is easily made up postflop:

- I make more money when I hit and have people calling (in a big pot) when they are drawing nearly dead.

- Getting a free turn card is worth a lot.

- It makes it easier for me to read a higher pocket pair on the flop.

- I like the blinds out for when a rag flop shows.