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Old 01-02-2005, 06:05 PM
rigoletto rigoletto is offline
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Default TP flush draw vs. LP raiser.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) converter

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

MP2 (t2370)
MP3 (t1318)
<font color="#C00000">CO (t2275)</font>
Button (t2160)
SB (t1300)
BB (t120)
UTG (t1482)
UTG+1 (t2765)
UTG+2 (t1360)
<font color="#C00000">Hero (t1395)</font>

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls t15, Hero calls t15, MP2 calls t15, MP3 folds, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to t65</font>, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds, UTG+2 calls t50, Hero calls t50, MP2 calls t50.

Flop: (t285) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
UTG+2 checks, Hero checks, MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets t185</font>, UTG+2 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t1330 (All-In)</font>...
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Old 01-02-2005, 06:24 PM
DyessMan89 DyessMan89 is offline
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Default Re: TP flush draw vs. LP raiser.

I wouldnt have called the raise pre-flop, but you played it fine on the flop.
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Old 01-02-2005, 06:35 PM
Lloyd Lloyd is offline
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Default Re: TP flush draw vs. LP raiser.

I would muck this pre-flop. I don't want to play a drawing hand like Axs from EP or MP. Even though the stacks are a bit deeper in this tourney, it still makes it difficult to play when an Ace hits the flop. When it comes back to you after the raise (which is another reason I don't like playing these hands from EP or MP - you often have to face a re-raise cutting the implied odds even further) you're getting over 3 to 1 odds so a call is appropriate at that point.

It's clear that you are behind on the flop. CO almost certainly has an Ace with a bigger kicker. His bet is over half the pot and can look weak to some people but is actually a nice size bet to make flush draws bite but pay more than they should.

Your re-raise all-in SCREAMS draw. If he calls, you have 12 outs to improve. You are a 55-45 dog. If you want to gamble the all-in isn't horrible as you're betting T1330 to win T2945. But you are a dog, he should know he's ahead, and more times than not you'll be out. If you're willing to take that risk for an early double up then great.
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Old 01-02-2005, 06:37 PM
Lloyd Lloyd is offline
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Default Re: TP flush draw vs. LP raiser.

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I wouldnt have called the raise pre-flop, but you played it fine on the flop.

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I think you have to separate out limping to begin with versus calling the raise. He probably shouldn't have limped, but he's getting decent odds after the raise and cold caller.
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Old 01-02-2005, 06:38 PM
U235 U235 is offline
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Default Re: TP flush draw vs. LP raiser.

This is a very read-dependant play, but in the absence of a read...I think the push is good here. My first instinct was to fold, but I'm a weak-tight bitch. It seems likely to be read as a draw, and unlikely to push a better (any) Ace off. But he could have a non-Ace hand, and you're not a huge dog to a hand such as AQs (45%). Time to get some chips or go take a nap.

BTW, I'd like ot hear your thoughts as why you checked instead of leading out (although I think I would have checked as well).
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