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Old 10-09-2005, 02:30 PM
SheetWise SheetWise is offline
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Default Re: Continuing to Double Bet until you win...

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Now that'd be something to try. Play one hand of 2/4 if you lose go play one hand of 4/8 etc...

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Please post your results.
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Old 10-09-2005, 03:19 PM
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Default Re: Continuing to Double Bet until you win...

if there was no max table limit wouldnt this strategy work?
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Old 10-09-2005, 03:49 PM
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Default Re: Continuing to Double Bet until you win...

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if there was no max table limit wouldnt this strategy work?

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Technically the answer is....yes and no. Assuming you had an infinite bankroll, and no table limit, then yes you'd think you have to win eventually. However it's still possible however unlikely that you'll run into an infinite string of losing hands.

The real math guys can probably explain better then I can (I get confused when I deal with infinity). But I think it's enough to know that in real world conditions the system cannot produce a long term profit.
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Old 10-09-2005, 06:03 PM
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It could but it will never happen because there is always a limit to the bets. So you might be thinking what if a "Whale" decides to play a game where he/she can bet up to $100k per bet yet the minimum is $5 even though it would be unlikely the "whale" would bet it. Lets just say this whale decides to do this and doubles the bet if he/she loses etc. etc. When the whale loses 15 times in a row he/she won't be able to double up anymore. Not to mention the casino would know what is going on. Now playing a casino game that is 49.50/50.50 BJ for example it would take about 35k hands to run into a 15 hand losing streak. Of course this will happen sooner or later but that is why the limits are set so you can't double up more than 6 or 7 times which will happen a lot more.
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Old 10-09-2005, 06:08 PM
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Default Re: Continuing to Double Bet until you win...

That really is the bottom line. There is no system in the world that can change a set -EV into a +EV without cheating. That is why there is are no professional roulette, craps, bacarat players anywhere in the world...unless they cheat.
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Old 10-09-2005, 06:40 PM
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Default Re: Continuing to Double Bet until you win...

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When the whale loses 15 times in a row he/she won't be able to double up anymore. Not to mention the casino would know what is going on.

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LOL. They'll send your airfare.

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... the limits are set so you can't double up more than 6 or 7 times

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You could get a lot better than that (if you wanted to). Just change tables. Pretty easy to get $2 to $50k spread. They'll still send your airfare.
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Old 10-09-2005, 10:19 PM
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Default Re: Continuing to Double Bet until you win...

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if there was no max table limit wouldnt this strategy work?

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Technically the answer is....yes and no. Assuming you had an infinite bankroll, and no table limit, then yes you'd think you have to win eventually. However it's still possible however unlikely that you'll run into an infinite string of losing hands.

The real math guys can probably explain better then I can (I get confused when I deal with infinity). But I think it's enough to know that in real world conditions the system cannot produce a long term profit.

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this is correct
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Old 10-11-2005, 01:55 AM
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Default Re: Continuing to Double Bet until you win...

It's a bad strategy... I still remember hitting up a sticky bonus at an online casino... my target was $1200 and I had $1197. So I decided to martingale the last $3 at pai gow (yeah, I know I would''ve needed another small win to get completely even)

$3 - lose
$6 - lose
$12 - lose
$25 - lose
$50 - lose
$100 - lose
$200 - lose
$400 - lose
$400 - lose

oops.
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Old 10-11-2005, 10:21 AM
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Default Re: Continuing to Double Bet until you win...

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it's still possible however unlikely that you'll run into an infinite string of losing hands.

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Wouldn't you need an infinite amount of time to hit an infinite losing streak? Given that an infinite amount of time is clearly a ludicrous premise, we have to conlude that the system works [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 10-11-2005, 11:00 AM
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Default Re: Continuing to Double Bet until you win...

"If you can assume an infinite bankroll, I can assume infinite losses" --- some 2+2er
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