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Old 08-23-2005, 05:35 AM
Newt_Buggs Newt_Buggs is offline
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Default donk complete on the bubble

200/400 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (Tournament 15056100) - Mon Aug 22 01:59:58 EDT 2005
Table Table 11148 (Real Money) -- Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 2: Slowmo55 (2900)
Seat 3: cedarcc (5760)
Seat 7: NewtBuggs (1325)
Seat 10: bond85111 (15)
cedarcc posts small blind (100)
NewtBuggs posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to NewtBuggs [ 5d, 5s ]
bond85111 calls (15)
bond85111 is all-In.
Slowmo55 folds.
cedarcc calls (100)
NewtBuggs?

$109
player is pretty bad, fairly loose. I can see him completing a wide range here, but I'm not sure how much of that range he will let go to a push.

check or push? If you check what's your plan for the flop?
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Old 08-23-2005, 07:24 AM
yid3655 yid3655 is offline
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Default Re: donk complete on the bubble

An interesting hand basically because of the looseness of the CL. I obvious have no idea how loose he is which is why what I say may be wrong.

When I first read it I was literally about to steam in and say PUSHHHHH, but im not really sure if this is a great move in this situation.

cedarcc may be loose but I'd take an educated that his calling range would see you at best 50/50. Losing both pots with 55 is certainly more likely then bond surving an all in marathon for the next few hands..

bond85111 is all in 3 hands in a row minimum and I think this is the type of situation you have to avoid confrontation until ITM. He cannot do anything with a 15 stack, nothing to lose whereas you have everything to lose.

Having a proper look at the hand I believe I would go for a simple check and then folding every flop if cedarcc bets (bar trips of course).
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Old 08-23-2005, 07:27 AM
Karak567 Karak567 is offline
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Default Re: donk complete on the bubble

play extremely carefully, do not put your stack at risk, the SB is a donk for not putting you all in.

wait till you are ITM, it is guaranteed
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Old 08-23-2005, 10:17 AM
tigerite tigerite is offline
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Default Re: donk complete on the bubble

He's giving you free odds to see the flop, spike a set and double up. I take it. If you had a high enough pair that losing in the order tiny stack > SB > you was extremely unlikely, then sure you could push. With 55 this just isn't the case, though. Trust me as someone who has bust with 77 in this kind of position to Kx from the small stack and Ax from the big stack, and the small stack's gone on to hit two pair, with an ace on the flop.
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Old 08-23-2005, 10:35 AM
schwza schwza is offline
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Default Re: donk complete on the bubble

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spike a set and double up

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a like a check, but i'm not playing it for set value. i'm min-betting most if not all flops. i highly doubt the villain is going to want to start splashing around in an empty side with no hand.
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Old 08-23-2005, 10:42 AM
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Default Re: donk complete on the bubble

The only play here is to check.

You have only 2 options on the flop. Spike a 5 and play it aggressively, or check it down and fold if the other guy bets.
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