trapped with 2 pair

Koss · #1 10-14-2005, 12:49 AM

I don't like my holding against UTG here. SB is clearly way out of line, and I just want to show this one down. When he donked the turn I knew I was going to get popped by UTG. Any choice here?

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Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, 1 fold, CO calls, Button calls, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (5 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB bets, Hero calls, UTG raises, CO folds, Button folds, SB 3-bets, Hero caps, UTG calls, SB calls.

Turn: (8.50 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets, Hero calls, UTG raises, SB calls, Hero calls.

River: (14.50 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG bets, SB calls, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 17.50 BB

Weatherhead03 · #2 10-14-2005, 01:01 AM

I don't make the overcall on the river. Either SB or UTG has the 4.

Isura · #3 10-14-2005, 02:01 AM

Raise the flop.

shadow29 · #4 10-14-2005, 02:04 AM

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Raise the flop.

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not rasing isn't so bad.

i raise the turn, call down against futher aggression.

#5 10-14-2005, 05:41 AM

*grunch*

I was originally going to say why not cap the turn but after more thought I understand your predicament. With SB donking all the time it does make you very vulnerable to UTG. That being said, I only fear UTG w/ possible trips (or the baby straight - but would he be so aggressive with that?) Sorry I don't have more for you…I'm stumped…

POKhER · #6 10-14-2005, 07:15 AM

you fold river in 16BB pot? You think SB or UTG bet/raised with a gutshot?

To the OP: Raise the flop, Then raise the turn. Turn card isnt to bad, but im starting to think one of them may have a set against further aggression.

MATT111 · #7 10-14-2005, 07:49 AM

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I don't make the overcall on the river. Either SB or UTG has the 4.

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Hell no!

xenthebrain · #8 10-14-2005, 08:05 AM

Why do you just call the first flopbet? I'd raise here.

xenthebrain · #9 10-14-2005, 08:09 AM

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Raise the flop.

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not rasing isn't so bad.

i raise the turn, call down against futher aggression.

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Why is that?

I think raising these flops is really important.
We want to keep the money in as long as we have the best hand.
This is before the board pairs and counterfeits our 2s and before someone pairs his kicker cheaply.

In this small pot there is no need to wait for a good turncard to driver others out. (if that was your plan)

Koss · #10 10-14-2005, 08:16 AM

I was pretty sure the SB had an Ace, and I knew I had one, so I didn't think that anyone else had one. I didn't want to drive anyone out of the pot just in case someone wanted to chase a gutshot or a set. I kind of figured everyone would just fold leaving the pot heads up, and I could pop him on the turn. It didn't work!