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Old 10-23-2005, 02:12 AM
Randy_Refeld Randy_Refeld is offline
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Default Re: Dealers most hated and stiff report

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when you say 'stiff' do you mean they tip too lightly or not at all?

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Generally the higher the limit someone plays the less they tip (not a lower per centage, less on absolute terms). In most high limit games if there isnt' something built in for the dealer the dealer gets nothing.
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Old 10-23-2005, 02:27 AM
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Default Re: Dealers most hated and stiff report

stiff means nothing
I mean nadda. Its unreal the higer the limit the less you get. Those high limit players want a perfect deal in all aspects ,treat you like a peion ,blame you for the draw of the cards and then tip nothing. In a $4 - 8 game I make like 20 bucks in a down (30 Mins) In the big game $4000/8000 if I am lucky I might get a Fiver from one player if he crushed it. The prop bets they make can be as high as 50 k per hand on top of a pot that is 40 to 50 k, 1 dollars seems reasoable to me I chose this profession I just wanted a place to let everone know how it realy is. You would think that if they blame us for the bad cards they woul be nicer to get better cards. These guys are real rocket scientist
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Old 10-24-2005, 01:08 AM
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Default Re: Dealers most hated and stiff report

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stiff means nothing
I mean nadda. Its unreal the higer the limit the less you get. Those high limit players want a perfect deal in all aspects ,treat you like a peion ,blame you for the draw of the cards and then tip nothing. In a $4 - 8 game I make like 20 bucks in a down (30 Mins) In the big game $4000/8000 if I am lucky I might get a Fiver from one player if he crushed it. The prop bets they make can be as high as 50 k per hand on top of a pot that is 40 to 50 k, 1 dollars seems reasoable to me I chose this profession I just wanted a place to let everone know how it realy is. You would think that if they blame us for the bad cards they woul be nicer to get better cards. These guys are real rocket scientist

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This blowss my mind. In fact I don't believe it.
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Old 10-24-2005, 01:32 AM
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Default Re: Dealers most hated and stiff report

He's correct bro. 100% truth in his post. You may not believe it, but that's the way it is.
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Old 10-29-2005, 06:30 PM
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He's correct bro. 100% truth in his post. You may not believe it, but that's the way it is.

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That is reprehensible. I'll take your word for it.
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Old 10-24-2005, 12:18 PM
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Default Nothing like being unbiased.

You should be more forthwright from the start about your motivations for making judgements, in the future.
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Old 10-24-2005, 12:38 PM
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Default Re: Nothing like being unbiased.

I was talking to a Borgata dealer and he was bitching about how much Al Ardebili tipped this year (30k) vs. Negreanu's tip of around 60k last year. He said that difference in tip made the hourly $50 this year vs $100 per hour last year. (obviously just for the tourney)

Cry me a river.
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Old 10-24-2005, 12:56 PM
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I was talking to a Borgata dealer and he was bitching about how much Al Ardebili tipped this year (30k) vs. Negreanu's tip of around 60k last year. He said that difference in tip made the hourly $50 this year vs $100 per hour last year. (obviously just for the tourney)

Cry me a river.

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Normally at major touranments teh final event is a large pay day for the dealers. The touranment management likes this as it keeps the dealers committed for the entire tournament and it off sets dealing the large side games wehre they receive no tip.
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Old 10-24-2005, 05:12 PM
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Default Re: Nothing like being unbiased.

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I was talking to a Borgata dealer and he was bitching about how much Al Ardebili tipped this year (30k) vs. Negreanu's tip of around 60k last year. He said that difference in tip made the hourly $50 this year vs $100 per hour last year. (obviously just for the tourney)

Cry me a river.

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This pisses me off so much its unbelievable. I wish there was some way Al could go and ask for the money back.

fwiw, after the wsop this year, i felt kind of railroaded into leaving a tip. They had this dealer and staff guy come in and tell me what was customary. (The dealer said 5 to 10 on a win of my size, which I thought he meant 5k-10k, but looking back I wouldn't be suprised if he meant 5-10%)And when I asked what about the casino's percentage they told me less than 2% goes to the dealers. I asked to leave my check there and leave the tip when I came back after I talked to some other players, but they said if I didnt leave the tip that day the dealers wouldn't get it. I finally decided to leave 5k, which I thought was reasonable. When I gave it to them they hardly even seemed appreciative, kind of acting like I stiffed them. I should have taken it back.
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Old 10-24-2005, 06:19 PM
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Default Re: Nothing like being unbiased.

5k on a win of how much?
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