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Simple preflop situation: UTG raise, min reraise.
Online NL, 9-handed.
Hero (UTG) has the table covered, and has been playing tightly. Villain 1 (UTG+1) has 22 BB, and seems pretty loose. Villain 2 (MP2) has 32 BB. No read. Most players have 80+ BB. Hero has K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Preflop: Hero raises to 4 BB. Villain 1 calls. 1 fold. Villain 2 raises to 7 BB. All fold to the hero. Hero...? What bugs me about this reraise is that I have represented a tremendous amount of strength by raising UTG against the other deep stacks. I usually don't raise JJ or AQs UTG. So, what hands are a favorite against the range I'm raising? Only KK and AA. Perhaps the smooth-call by Villain 1 would encourage QQ or AK to get aggressive. Perhaps Villain 2 hates money and has TT. However, I really feel I'm behind on average and out of position. Can it be right to fold KK to a mininimum reraise? If I call, how should I play on the flop? |
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Re: Simple preflop situation: UTG raise, min reraise.
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I really feel I'm behind on average and out of position [/ QUOTE ] Why would you believe you were behind on avg with KK here? |
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Re: Simple preflop situation: UTG raise, min reraise.
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Why would you believe you were behind on avg with KK here? [/ QUOTE ] [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] What is the range of hands with which you would reraise an UTG raise? KK is behind the range with which I would reraise an UTG raise, particularly if the UTG player is tight. I usually just call with QQ and AK. [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] With what types of hands do short stacks tend to minraise rather than push? I almost never minreraise, but I see many people do this with AA. It feels like Villain 2 wants a call. |
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Re: Simple preflop situation: UTG raise, min reraise.
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What is the range of hands with which you would reraise an UTG raise? KK is behind the range with which I would reraise an UTG raise, particularly if the UTG player is tight. I usually just call with QQ and AK. [/ QUOTE ] Was the opponent your twin?? If not, if he was the usual SSNLHE player, go ahead and play the hand man. The weak tighness is spreading.... [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] |
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Re: Simple preflop situation: UTG raise, min reraise.
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[ QUOTE ] What is the range of hands with which you would reraise an UTG raise? [/ QUOTE ] Was the opponent your twin?? [/ QUOTE ] You didn't answer the question. Would you reraise when a tight player raises UTG with JJ? With AK? If you wouldn't (and I think it would be a huge mistake with JJ), then KK is at best even with the hands against which you would reraise. KK is a great hand before anyone shows any strength. It isn't a great hand after someone reraises an UTG raise. Similarly, TPTK is a great hand before a bet and a raise. [ QUOTE ] The weak tighness is spreading.... [/ QUOTE ] Perhaps I'm a tight-weak player. If so, I'm a tight-weak player who just snapped off multi-street bluffs in 200 BB pots with AK unimproved and 66 unimproved, and averages a loss of only 7 BB/100 from the blinds (+30BB/100 after posting). Applying such a label is a poor substitute for analysis. |
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Re: Simple preflop situation: UTG raise, min reraise.
Most people aren't paying attention to your raising standards.
You've left off a few important things ... namely the stakes. I think you should re-raise here to push out Villain 1. With 32BB you cannot seriously get away from KK anyway. Go ahead and pop it back here. If he pushes, so be it. |
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Re: Simple preflop situation: UTG raise, min reraise.
reraise large or push, i'd do it everyday and twice on sundays.
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Re: Simple preflop situation: UTG raise, min reraise.
You call and play poker on the flop.
Why is this a hard question? If you push you will only get called if you are sorely beaten. The Doc |
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Re: Simple preflop situation: UTG raise, min reraise.
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You call and play poker on the flop. The Doc [/ QUOTE ] "you thought we were playing tiddly winks!?" |
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Re: Simple preflop situation: UTG raise, min reraise.
You say that villian 1 seems pretty loose, so at best you would only "seem" pretty tight to him.
You have no read on villian 2, so he has no read on you. They have no idea what your requirements for entering a pot UTG are. Also, the vast majority of low stakes NL players would raise here with AK, AQ, QQ, JJ, as well as AA, KK. If I were playing this hand, I would just call. If no ace came on the flop I would play the hand like I owned it. If an ace fell well, then it gets tricky. |
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