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Old 08-04-2005, 01:35 AM
KDawgCometh KDawgCometh is offline
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Default 1010 vs a Tag

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Preflop: Hero is MP3 with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. UTG posts a blind of $3.
UTG (poster) checks, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG folds, MP1 calls.

Flop: (11.33 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, Hero calls, Button calls.

Turn: (7.16 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, Hero calls, Button folds.

River: (9.16 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 10.16 BB


villian was a run of the mill tag, hadn't seen him do anything spectacualr and I haven't seen him do anything upragiously stupid. so pretty much a solid player every which way

button is short bus material


is the flop peel okay, or should I have just folded the flop
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Old 08-04-2005, 01:45 AM
Nick C Nick C is offline
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Default Re: 1010 vs a Tag

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is the flop peel okay, or should I have just folded the flop

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My first thought was that it's a fold, but I'm starting to think it may be close, actually.

You're probably behind, and your backdoor draws aren't really that good.

Still, you do have those backdoor draws to go with your potential set outs. Also, there is some chance MP1 will check the turn with AQ or his flush draw (if that's what he has) if he gets called in two places on the flop.

If I somehow knew Button wasn't going to raise, I think I would peel.
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Old 08-04-2005, 01:50 AM
cold_cash cold_cash is offline
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I'd fold the flop.

That's a super crappy board for you, and I doubt he bets into with anything you're beating.

Add the presence of the 3rd guy behind me and I'm out.
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Old 08-04-2005, 05:34 AM
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Default Re: 1010 vs a Tag

choice 1, fold 90%
choice 2, raise 10%
choice 3, call 0%

Aj and 99 are the normal UTG hands that you are ahead of preflop... not to mention Button's presence.

K is never folding.

Q will only fold vs aggression.
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Old 08-04-2005, 06:01 AM
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I think u should fold. Your straight dram runner runner is no good. And if u hit a two outer for your trips. U could be up against a AJ. I would say fold
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Old 08-04-2005, 06:09 AM
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If u have decided to peel, then I assume one of the cards u do want to see are the potentials of completing a str8 and if so u will pay for an additional card if turn brings hope( this hope is dimm though, cause your situation doesnt improve much with an A or a J, u are still at best drawing to 1-2 outs to have a winner on river, given u are behind)

If the opponent yet to act is worrisome
Why not raise?
Could knock button out?
Might get u a free turn?
Will let u fold with confidence if action gets wild
Less expencive then seeing it trough

Also it wasnt capped wich could mean that the board is scary looking not just to u

On the turn however u are probably drawing dead to a T ( 0,5 out)and live to an A, possibly regarded as a 1 or 1,5 outer,it is not so likely that the opponent has a t, but I do believe one or two of the A`s are accounted for. And with the action taken I wouldnt pay to see the river.

This was just me trying to cast some light IMO on your decision and a different aproach if one has decided to peel
Let there be no doubt I would fold this flopp
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Old 08-04-2005, 06:11 AM
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is the flop peel okay, or should I have just folded the flop

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Fold.
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Old 08-04-2005, 06:15 AM
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is the flop peel okay, or should I have just folded the flop

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Fold.

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