PP $200 - River play with boat

[ThePortuguee]

Bet. Just like everyone's already mentioned, you get value from exactly a draw by checking, and a draw's a pretty thin read here, given the smallish turn raise. I dont see a semi-bluff making it 75 to go on the turn. I think 88 and 33 are probably the most solid reads, with A8, A3, and AQ also possible. Every single one of those hands is calling your river shove, and you're stacking all but two, losing to only one. All in, listen to him whine about how yo sucked out on his set.

[swolfe]

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Bet. Just like everyone's already mentioned, you get value from exactly a draw by checking, and a draw's a pretty thin read here, given the smallish turn raise. I dont see a semi-bluff making it 75 to go on the turn. I think 88 and 33 are probably the most solid reads, with A8, A3, and AQ also possible. Every single one of those hands is calling your river shove, and you're stacking all but two, losing to only one. All in, listen to him whine about how yo sucked out on his set.

[/ QUOTE ]you guys are missing the point. if he has a hand that will call my push, then he will be pushing himself. you don't think that 33 or a big A pushes the river when checked to?

if any hand that will call will also push, then checking may be better because there are some hands that won't call that may also push.

[pokerjoker]

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Bet. Just like everyone's already mentioned, you get value from exactly a draw by checking, and a draw's a pretty thin read here, given the smallish turn raise. I dont see a semi-bluff making it 75 to go on the turn. I think 88 and 33 are probably the most solid reads, with A8, A3, and AQ also possible. Every single one of those hands is calling your river shove, and you're stacking all but two, losing to only one. All in, listen to him whine about how yo sucked out on his set.

[/ QUOTE ]you guys are missing the point. if he has a hand that will call my push, then he will be pushing himself. you don't think that 33 or a big A pushes the river when checked to?

if any hand that will call will also push, then checking may be better because there are some hands that won't call that may also push.

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trip A's w/o a full house don't push but could call a push. Uber tight villian with a set doesn't push but would call a push (rare but it happened to me b4).

Those 2 things make up for the chance that he will bluff push river if checked to IMO.