Wait for the turn with an overpair

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I probably have the best hand on the flop, normally I just bet or raise when I think I'm ahead. But in this case I'm also very vulnerable on the turn and river. Would the correct play be to smooth call the flop and raise the turn if a blank

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FLOP: For the very reason you state, I like an immediate raise to blow MP2 off any overcards or punish him for staying in with a hand like top pair and a gutshot. Punish the bettor SB right now also.

Just calling would offer MP 6:1 which lets him stay in with any pair also and gives him chances to make two pair or a set. Raise looks mandatory to me.

RIVER: I check with the four to a straight that just came in. You got calls, but I don't know why both those guys called you unless they had you beat. I would expect a fold or raise reply and to usually get little value from a river bet.

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I'd much rather bet-fold the river. You get called by any 6 and possibly any made pair on the flop plus occasionally small pocket pairs which won't bet the river with the four-straight on the board.

Flop raise is standard.

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you really need to raise this preflop

and raise the flop, the way you did play it

I like the raise a lot. You probably have the best hand and as stated you need to push out or at least punish overcards.

I am wondering if anyone can make a case for raising preflop here just out of curiousity. It's more of a question for my play. Obviously it depends a lot on who is left to act, but assuming regular poor to average players behind you, would anyone raise? Is this too aggressive?

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I am wondering if anyone can make a case for raising preflop here just out of curiousity. It's more of a question for my play. Obviously it depends a lot on who is left to act, but assuming regular poor to average players behind you, would anyone raise? Is this too aggressive?



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its a fairly standard raise

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Would the correct play be to smooth call the flop and raise the turn if a blank ( <=8) falls

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Any card < 8 is actually not a good thing to see given this flop texture especially with both blinds in.

Betting the flop is good. Raising pre-flop to open and betting the flop is better. With the SB donking here, the raise is good as it puts pressure on MP2 to get rid of overcards.

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Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 8, 8.
3 folds, Hero calls, MP2 calls, 2 folds, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (4 SB) 6, 2, 3 (5 players)
SB bets, BB folds, Hero raises, MP2 calls, SB calls.

Turn: (5 BB) J (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, MP2 calls, SB calls.

River: (8 BB) 4 (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, MP2 calls, SB calls.


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Thanks for all your input. The reason for this post was a section in SSHE, "Two overpair hands" which claims to give up a small edge on the flop in order to benefit from a much larger edge on the turn (if none of the 30+ cards that could hurt my holding fell).
SB held Q3o for a flopped bottom pair and MP2 Q5o for the rivered straight. My biggest error in this hand was definetly to bet the river when there was four to a straight on the board. MP2's play is really terrible. First he didn't have the odds to call the flop after my raise, and second he didn't raise that river.