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Old 11-23-2005, 02:23 PM
JAP JAP is offline
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Default QQ, against LP player and JJx flop

Villain is a very loose passive player.
Would most players bet flop, bet (or check) turn, check river?
I decided not to bet because i was scared of J, but after two checks i decided that my hand was the best and a valuebet was ok. Do you fold/call/raise his river reraise?
I would like comments on all streets please.

** 4Runner [Hold 'em] (1.00|2.00 No Limit - Cash Game) Real Money

- Button sitting in seat 1 with $280.30 [Dealer]
- SB sitting in seat 2 with $65.90
- BB sitting in seat 3 with $204.65
- Villain sitting in seat 4 with $214.35
- Hero sitting in seat 5 with $220.30

SB posted the small blind - $1.00
BB posted the big blind - $2.00
** Dealing card to Hero: Queen of Hearts, Queen of Spades
Villain called - $2.00
Hero raised - $10.00
Button folded
SB folded
BB folded
Villain called - $10.00

** Dealing the flop: Jd, Jc, 5d
Villain checked
Hero checked

** Dealing the turn: 4s
Villain checked
Hero checked

** Dealing the river: 3s
Villain checked
Hero bet - $20.00
Villain raised - $40.00
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Old 11-23-2005, 02:29 PM
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Default Re: QQ, against LP player and JJx flop

bet the flop for 2/3 pot and reassess on the turn.
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Old 11-23-2005, 02:33 PM
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Default Re: QQ, against LP player and JJx flop

Ok bet 2/3. he calls. then check/bet turn?

As I played the hand though, checked all the way, would you bet and then raise/call/fold the river min raise?
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Old 11-23-2005, 02:36 PM
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Default Re: QQ, against LP player and JJx flop

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Ok bet 2/3. he calls. then check/bet turn?

As I played the hand though, checked all the way, would you bet and then raise/call/fold the river min raise?

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as played, i would call.
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Old 11-23-2005, 02:47 PM
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Default Re: QQ, against LP player and JJx flop

I agree with the response that says to bet the flop (2/3 is good), but I'm really just replying to say, "Damn, I hate these paired board situations." I absolutely KNOW how every one of my opponents plays flopped trips: slowplay to the river, regardless of how scary the board gets (unless it double pairs above their trips, maybe), then stick in a sizeable bet or probably minraise.

I know this, but when it happens I'm powerless to fold to the river bet because of the pot odds. So even though I believe that playing aggressively and not fearing monsters under the bed is appropriate, I always seem to lose more to trips than I make with them (generally by only slowplaying if the board is uncoordinated, or perhaps heads-up). Perhaps that's just selective memory or small sample; when I get PT going I'll be better able to answer such questions.
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