Plan for turn...

[krishanleong]

No solid reads. If you bet the turn, tell me what you do if BB raises and what you do if MP raises(assume BB calls).

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Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, BB calls, MP calls.

Flop: (9 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, MP calls.

Turn: (6 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>

Thanks,

Krishan

[bds]

I bet the turn here. You bet the flop. Your hand iimproved on the turn, so I bet again. What are your other options? If you check and someone else bets, can you fold? I couldn't. Without reads it's hard to know what to do if you are raised, but I call down. There are many hands that you beat and I haven't figured out a way to tell if that raise means you are beat or if it is a lesser hand taking a shot at you. If there were two raises on the turn, I'd fold, convinced that I was beat.

[mperich]

Turn is a mustbet here IMO. MP could easily have a lower pair here. BB is the one Im worried about. If BB raises and it gets headsup I call down altho I don't like it. If BB calls, MP raises then thats a pretty easy fold. If BB folds and MP raises I also call down, and feel slightly better then if BB had raised. If one or both just call, you have an easy bet for value on the river, but you know that. Also if BB raises and MP calls I probably fold too.

-Mike

[climber]

yeah what the two of them said.

[Mig]

if MP it tricky he might raise a hand like QTs , QJs figuring that the odds of you having a K are small ? I don't think I would fold with second pair top kicker with the kings paired.

[mntbikr15]

This is a bit player dependant IMO, however without any reads I bet the turn putting the BB on a mid-lower PP. MP could have any number of hands including QJ,QT and the like.

If BB raises the turn I call down(prob regardless of whether or not MP calls). If you call the BB raise along with MP, then BB bets the river and MP raises start running however.

If I bet the turn, BB calls and MP raises Id consider folding as its unlikely that MP will raise both of you without the king. Heres where a read is a very nice thing, would MP make that kinda raise with JT or a turned flush draw?

In short I have a hard time letting this go without a lot of convincing.