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Old 11-30-2005, 04:41 PM
ripdog ripdog is offline
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Default Shock and Awe in Miami

More fearmongering. I wonder if Seattleites would put up with this garbage. My gut says no.

Miami police take new tack against terror
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Old 11-30-2005, 04:45 PM
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Default Re: Shock and Awe in Miami

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We want that shock. We want that awe

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We want people to not want to spend time downtown.
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Old 11-30-2005, 04:51 PM
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Default Re: Shock and Awe in Miami

Where are your papers? Where are your papers!
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Old 11-30-2005, 05:00 PM
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Where are your papers? Where are your papers!

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Awesome!
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Old 11-30-2005, 04:51 PM
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Default Re: Shock and Awe in Miami

Terrorism: an excuse to have a police state.

But Canis, people want to be safe.

Uncle Ben Franklin says 'if you give up freedom for safety, you deserve neither.'
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Old 12-02-2005, 11:02 AM
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Default Re: Shock and Awe in Miami

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Terrorism: an excuse to have a police state.

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Makes you question who the real terrorists are.
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Old 12-02-2005, 11:47 AM
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Random Criminal Shootings: an excuse to have a police state where personal firearms are restricted and even banned

But Canis, people want to be safe.

Uncle Ben Franklin says 'if you give up freedom for safety, you deserve neither.'

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I'm glad that you now understand why the 2nd Amendment and unrestricted access to arms by the law abiding public is so improtant for the protection of all liberties.

-Gryph
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Old 12-01-2005, 03:23 AM
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Default Re: Shock and Awe in Miami

Gang drug war violence is the same as terrorism. And it is right to instill fear of it as well as the threat of external source terrorism. And although we should not allow permanent curbs on our liberties to fight same, we can and should be willing to submit to occasional such measures for limited periods.
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Old 12-01-2005, 04:27 AM
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Default See? This is naivete at work

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Although we should not allow permanent curbs on our liberties to fight same, we can and should be willing to submit to occasional such measures for limited periods.

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There are so many things wrong with this approach to the problem of civil liberties' erosion in the States, that I have no wish to even try to refute it. I'd lose the will to live.

Good luck with defining the "limited" and checking the "temporary".
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Old 12-01-2005, 05:22 AM
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"Gang drug war violence is the same as terrorism. "

You seem to think that every form of violence you disapprove of is terrorism. Your world must be one big blob of homogenous gloop.
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