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Old 12-20-2005, 12:42 AM
HiatusOver HiatusOver is offline
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Default Full House on the button vs PF raiser, easy stack right?

Party 10-20 NL

Unknown MP with 5800 Opens for 70, my stack is 2000

I call on button with JJ (good?). Heads up to the flop

J33 2 spades.

He bets 100...this is where u guys come in
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Old 12-20-2005, 12:50 AM
Howard Treesong Howard Treesong is offline
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Default Re: Full House on the button vs PF raiser, easy stack right?

Hard to imagine that a stack is the right play against a 100 bet into a 170 pot with another 1800 behind. The man is drawing thin or dead; let him come to you on the turn or river. What's going to call you if you stack?
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Old 12-20-2005, 12:52 AM
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Default Re: Full House on the button vs PF raiser, easy stack right?

easy stack? what do you think hes gonna stack off with? first you have to hope he has an overpair..
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Old 12-20-2005, 12:55 AM
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Default Re: Full House on the button vs PF raiser, easy stack right?

hands like this really really depend on the player.
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Old 12-20-2005, 12:57 AM
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Default Re: Full House on the button vs PF raiser, easy stack right?

Call. Due to the exponential theory of pot growth, you should be able to get your moola in before the river.

Easy stack.
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Old 12-20-2005, 12:58 AM
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Default Re: Full House on the button vs PF raiser, easy stack right?

sorry Howard "stack" didnt mean push all-in on the flop. It just meant that somehow I could manipulate all his chips in the pot whether he had it or not. U suggest calling the flop?
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Old 12-20-2005, 12:58 AM
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Default Re: Full House on the button vs PF raiser, easy stack right?

Well, I wouldn't fold here. The rest is up to you.
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Old 12-20-2005, 01:03 AM
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Default Re: Full House on the button vs PF raiser, easy stack right?

I'd raise. If he's got an overpair then he is unlikely to put you on a boat. Only one combo of 33, and JJ would often reraise pf so he'll discount that.

-SmileyEH
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Old 12-20-2005, 01:12 AM
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Default Re: Full House on the button vs PF raiser, easy stack right?

I raise this flop.
He would expect a monster to smoothcall..u raise..he prolly goes broke if he has an Over pair.
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Old 12-20-2005, 01:17 AM
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Default Re: Full House on the button vs PF raiser, easy stack right?

Id say you can call the flop. If you raise you may scare him off of a steal and if he does have a big pair or A J or something he'll fire again and you can trap.
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