when it would be painfully obvious you have the nuts...

[mgsimpleton]

what do you do? you never bet.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $10 BB (8 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

CO ($582.55)
Button ($1217)
SB ($2416)
BB ($1126)
Hero ($1364)
UTG+1 ($975)
MP1 ($715)
MP2 ($1339)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
Hero calls $10, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls $10, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $10, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $50</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $40, MP2 calls $40, Button calls $40.

Flop: ($210) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, MP2 checks, Button checks.

Turn: ($210) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets $60</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $250</font>, SB folds, Hero calls $250, MP2 folds.

River: ($770) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks

[Allinlife]

how come no turn bet/

[mgsimpleton]

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how come no turn bet/

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someone has a pieceof this board and if not someone will try to steal it since it is a big pot... my c/r havenot been getting respect (i wonder why im crazy as usual) so if one dude bets and another just calls and i c/r i think i can get called by one pair or two pair...

problem came when it came time to raise the raiser.

[Bukem_]

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how come no turn bet/

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Its never as obvious as it seems to you. I think it very likely you can 3 bet button and still get action.

The way you played it I like river check if you are confident he will bet river. Otherwise I prefer pot on river, looks like a bluff, may still get raised by a strong hand.

[Ulysses]

Don't like your turn or river play.

[Voltron87]

I hate it when people do stuff like what MP2 did and it gets in the way.

Otherwise I really like it, the check to him on the river is good I think.

[mgsimpleton]

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Its never as obvious as it seems to you. I think it very likely you can 3 bet button and still get action.

The way you played it I like river check if you are confident he will bet river. Otherwise I prefer pot on river, looks like a bluff, may still get raised by a strong hand.

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no offense but thank you for saying absolutely nothing.

the point is what do you guys think the range and probabilities are here given action (no reads) and against that range is this the mostprofitable line?

[BobboFitos]

I think turn action is more interesting then riv;
both initial plan to c/r, and initial call or reraise the current situation.

[mgsimpleton]

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cool. care to elaborate, oh revered one? or should i just take it for whatit is and next time the exact samesituation arises ill make sure to play it differently?

[Ulysses]

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cool. care to elaborate, oh revered one? or should i just take it for whatit is and next time the exact samesituation arises ill make sure to play it differently?

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You said your checkraise is not getting respect, and here you have the nuts. Why on earth do you not want to put more action in on the turn? There are a ton of action-killers on the river. Your play makes no sense to me.

Edited to add: My general take on your play from your posts is that you go way overboard on trying to play all tricky and fancy.