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Old 12-23-2005, 04:19 AM
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Even if its not a LAG, you cant make a plan that involves folding 66 headsup with 18x the BB. Do you realize the K+S number for 66 is something like 57x the BB. You must play this hand in a fashion that doesn't allow you to fold no matter what, and I believe this is true against all opponents.

You just dont know when someone is going to get fancy with QTs, A5s, 44 etc etc

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I think I disagree with your thinking here Curtains. The K&S number just shows that it is more profitable to push than to open fold here. But it says nothing about when you are played back at like you were. You need to re-evaluate after it gets back to you. Against certain opponents, a fold here to the push would surely be correct.
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Old 12-23-2005, 04:22 AM
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The K+S number is just too high compared to the money in play and most people's ranges will be too loose in a headsup battle like this. Im not saying that there arent a select number of people in which folding may be correct, but they are pretty rare IMO.
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Old 12-23-2005, 04:23 AM
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Simply put, raising to 125 with the idea of folding to an allin, is too absurd for me to fathom in this spot.
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Old 12-23-2005, 04:23 AM
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The K+S number is just too high compared to the money in play and most people's ranges will be too loose in a headsup battle like this. Im not saying that there arent a select number of people in which folding may be correct, but they are pretty rare IMO.

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Agreed. Just be careful using terms like 'all' 'always' or 'never' around me. I'm a philosophy major.
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Old 12-23-2005, 04:25 AM
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btw how often does 66 win against a range like A7+, 77+ and KJ+? Someone tell me, Im curious
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Old 12-23-2005, 04:26 AM
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You already said this, but it's a little burried now; I think it is better to make the initial raise bigger.

edit: nmind, you said the same again to pineapple.
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Old 12-23-2005, 04:26 AM
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btw how often does 66 win against a range like A7+, 77+ and KJ+? Someone tell me, Im curious

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45.36%
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Old 12-23-2005, 04:27 AM
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so how can you possibly fold against almost anyone with the chips already in the pot? This is a reasonably tight range too IMO.
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Old 12-23-2005, 04:29 AM
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I like raising to 200. You are most likely in front, so it charges him. If he pushes back it's an easy call, and it also gives a good pot for pushing the flop.

Would he automatically bet that flop if he didn't hit?? Would he call a flop push when you are ahead?? Is this guy truly a total moron??
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Old 12-23-2005, 04:31 AM
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so how can you possibly fold against almost anyone with the chips already in the pot? This is a reasonably tight range too IMO.

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Words like that are fine. I agree.

I'm just saying, there exist players who won't reraise without TT+ there. Going into the hand knowing you will not fold against someone like that is a bad plan.
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