Who likes pushing QQ early w/3 limpers in front?

[CarlSpackler]

My standard play in this situation is to raise between 150-200. I’ve been experimenting with some different ways to play hands, and thus I decided to push here since there was already 135 in the pot. How often do you think I get a fishy call here with a lower pp/aq or worse, in a Party 33sng? Do you think pushing here is worse, better, or about the same, as compared to raising 150 – 200 instead? Why?

33sng – bb t30

Table Table 12284 (Real Money) -- Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: TheSawDoctor (775)
Seat 2: HERO (775)
Seat 3: nahz5791 (930)
Seat 4: bbarbee (210)
Seat 5: wedders19 (770)
Seat 6: Aces_McCoy (580)
Seat 7: rickydee28 (645)
Seat 8: TexasPhil883 (1040)
Seat 9: jason0404 (730)
Seat 10: Trippertx (1545)
wedders19 posts small blind (15)
Aces_McCoy posts big blind (30)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ]
rickydee28 calls (30)
TexasPhil883 calls (30)
jason0404 folds.
Trippertx folds.
TheSawDoctor calls (30)
HERO raises (775) to 775
HERO is all-In.

[kyro]

I did the exact same thing with 690 chips and AKo last night. I like this play as it almost guarantees you an increase of 135 chips, and on the off chance someone does call, you will double up a good majority of the time.

[Lady Dont Tekno]

Don't cop out, just raise. You need to be able to play this post-flop. I mean even at the Party $33 you're going to get AJ+ calling sometimes (and possibly worse) so save yourself some early bad beat tourney ousts and just raise.

Take the gambooL out of SNGs early. You'll get enough of that on the bubble.

-LDT

[kyro]

With 1000 chips stacks it's a copout. With 800 chip stacks, I think it's a decent play.

[Yawkey]

I don't like pushing here, and there are a couple of reasons. The first and probably most important is the cards that will call, these are AA, KK, AK. This brings us to Doyle Brunson's view on pocket A's and K's, "you win a small pot, or loose a big pot". The raise is a much better play here I think, because it gives your opponents a chance to make a mistake call with lesser cards. It will also give you better idea if you are up against AA, or KK. Unless the opponent is on tilt, you can bet that they aren't raising without a hand that can compete with your queens. With callers you can become cautious on the flop if A or K falls.

[kyro]

You vastly overestimate your opponents.

[Lady Dont Tekno]

To elaborate further why pushing is bad.

AA-JJ are the TOP 4 starting hands and I expect that when I have one it's the best hand over 95% of the time. When I KNOW I have the best hand I'm looking to maximize my earn.

Pro's of pushing:
- Low risk.
Con's of pushing:
- You don't make much in this situation.

Pro's of raising:
- Worse hands will call.
- Can get away from bad flops while still having a stack.
Con's of raising:
- Risk of multiway pot (worst thing possible).

I think people sometime's get too caught up with playing extra tight/super aggressive early in SNGs. That's obviously good play but when you almost positively have the best hand, don't play scared.

my 2 cents that's probably misguided
-LDT

[BradleyT]

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you're going to get AJ+ calling sometimes (and possibly worse)

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Um, that's a good thing.

[Lady Dont Tekno]

Obviously, the idea is I don't like gambling early in tournaments when I can simply fold to [censored] flops. Level 4+ easy push.

-LDT

[kyro]

I like gambling if I think I'm going to have a 70% chance to double up.