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Old 03-03-2005, 08:05 PM
Maulik Maulik is offline
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Default SNG $10 v. $20 & $20 v $30?

I have the bankroll required to play either buyin, my question is the play similar at both levels. If the play is similar then, I don't see a reason to grind out the $10 tourneys when I could be using my time in a similar fashion to play $20 tourneys.

And, since I'm curious, what about $20 v $30?
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Old 03-03-2005, 08:22 PM
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Default Re: SNG $10 v. $20 & $20 v $30?

You better hope that Irieguy is in a good mood when he reads this [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 03-03-2005, 08:33 PM
The Yugoslavian The Yugoslavian is offline
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Default Re: SNG $10 v. $20 & $20 v $30?

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You better hope that Irieguy is in a good mood when he reads this [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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Hey, c'mon, that can't be our answer to *everything*!

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Old 03-03-2005, 08:38 PM
The Yugoslavian The Yugoslavian is offline
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Default Re: SNG $10 v. $20 & $20 v $30?

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I have the bankroll required to play either buyin, my question is the play similar at both levels.


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You're missing a question mark. But I'll answer anyway. They are similar yet different. Both are beatable but by different degrees. I have no idea if you would beat one but not the other. Just don't play the $6s on party.

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If the play is similar then, I don't see a reason to grind out the $10 tourneys when I could be using my time in a similar fashion to play $20 tourneys.


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But the play won't be of the same quality. Do you see why?

[insert game theory explanation here]

[insert explanation of why that doesn't matter if you can beat both levels solidly here]

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And, since I'm curious, what about $20 v $30?

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[insert game theory explanation here]

Yeah, each level gets harder. The jump from 30 to 50 is probably the biggest but the jump from 50 to 100 and 100 to 200 is also quite big (I've heard).

Also, implicit in your post you assume you can beat any of the lower limit buying SNGs, no problem. If this is the case, and you have the bankroll. Play whatever will make you happy.

Yugoslav
(Whose dad would *never* defer to him on any subject, [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] )
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Old 03-04-2005, 01:20 AM
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Default Re: SNG $10 v. $20 & $20 v $30?

in feb i have a 1% roi at 30+3 but 24% roi at 50+5. 300+ games in each during that month.

go figure...

if you are a winning player at 10+1, then you'll be a winning player at 30+3. just make sure you have 50x your bankroll before playing at that level.

in dec, i had a -50 SnG swing at 30+3. [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]
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Old 03-04-2005, 01:31 AM
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I'll say it here, but I guess it applies to all "Should I move up" posts. Aside from bankroll considerations (and possibly ahead of them), the most important factor in your long-term sng success will be ability to handle losing. If you move up to 20+2s, can you handle losing 10 buy-ins in a row? If not, don't go anywhere. It will happen. Doesn't matter if you're Phil Ivey, doesn't matter if you follow Aleo's guide to the letter. You're gonna lose. If you can't stomach losing at that buy-in, it will spiral downward from there. Your play will deteriorate and you'll lose confidence.

I can tell you this from experience, as can most posters I'm sure.
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Old 03-04-2005, 01:40 AM
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Default Re: SNG $10 v. $20 & $20 v $30?

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if you are a winning player at 10+1, then you'll be a winning player at 30+3

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I hope this true.

I just tried to move up to the 30's and lost $450 in 20 games back to the 20s for now.

-50 sorry that happened to you, but that makes me feel better in a strange way.

I've done real well at the 20s, but at this point feel like the 30s are unbeatable.
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Old 03-04-2005, 02:01 AM
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Default Re: SNG $10 v. $20 & $20 v $30?

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I'll say it here, but I guess it applies to all "Should I move up" posts. Aside from bankroll considerations (and possibly ahead of them), the most important factor in your long-term sng success will be ability to handle losing. If you move up to 20+2s, can you handle losing 10 buy-ins in a row? If not, don't go anywhere. It will happen. Doesn't matter if you're Phil Ivey, doesn't matter if you follow Aleo's guide to the letter. You're gonna lose. If you can't stomach losing at that buy-in, it will spiral downward from there. Your play will deteriorate and you'll lose confidence.

I can tell you this from experience, as can most posters I'm sure.

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What is this "Aleo's Guide?"
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Old 03-04-2005, 02:09 AM
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What is this "Aleo's Guide?"

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Beating Party 10+1 SNGs
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Old 03-04-2005, 02:38 AM
The Yugoslavian The Yugoslavian is offline
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in dec, i had a -50 SnG swing at 30+3. [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]

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Yeah. But just wait until that happens to you at the $55s.

Then you'll be both [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img] and [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img].

Yugoslav
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