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Old 12-21-2005, 04:31 PM
valenzuela valenzuela is offline
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Default Re: Wild call with J7o. ( screw ICM)

thanks for the replies....btw yeah i screwed up again editing my HH.
For the record he had K2o but I sucked out.
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Old 12-21-2005, 04:31 PM
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Default Re: Wild call with J7o. ( screw ICM)

If you have some semblance of a read that the SB is a good and/or loose player, I think the call is fairly routine, and probably even +$EV. If it's not, it's damn close, and the fold equity you gain and the position you have over some shortish stacks should you double through makes up for it.
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Old 12-21-2005, 04:32 PM
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Default Re: Wild call with J7o. ( screw ICM)

I did some serious pwning afterward, I even got a walk or two when I was a BB [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] . I only got third though.
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Old 12-21-2005, 04:44 PM
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Default Re: Wild call with J7o. ( screw ICM)

This depends solely on whether the BB is included in the posted stack. Call is forced and good if its 605-150, but push any two next hand is better if you have 605 left after folding BB.
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Old 12-21-2005, 04:48 PM
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Default Re: Wild call with J7o. ( screw ICM)

I can't figure out what is going on from this HH...Lizard29 isnt even listed? What's his position? Youre in BB? How are there this many responses?
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Old 12-21-2005, 04:51 PM
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Default Re: Wild call with J7o. ( screw ICM)

Even if it's 605 after posting the BB, a call is break-even ICM-wise if it wins 43.55% of the time.
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Old 12-21-2005, 04:55 PM
valenzuela valenzuela is offline
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Default Re: Wild call with J7o. ( screw ICM)

there u go:
This was on a 55

Trny:18459162 Level:5
Blinds(75/150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to D_Maybe [ J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ]
Seat 5: robcepin ( $715 )folds
Seat 6: dbrennan ( $1080 )folds
Seat 9: jeffgray ( $2300 )folds
Seat 10: legoman33 ( $4285 )folds

lizard29($865) is all-In [790]
D_Maybe($755) is all-In [605]

My case is the following
Lizard is pushing any 2 or at least top 70%, he has been pushing before.
Im getting 3 to 2 for my money.
All the table, except,Lizard is very tight.

If I dont call here Lizard will keep exposing me to more and more -EV desitions. If I call and succeed a bunch of +ev situations arrive since I will be doing some serious pwning to the tightweakies on my right. So to sum it all up : Im doing a -ev desition on the short run to create the possibility of +ev spots later on.

Anyway, am I a huge idiot?
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