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Old 12-14-2005, 01:58 PM
valenzuela valenzuela is offline
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Default $109:JJ , level 1


Seat 1: cactusjak9 ( $860 )
Seat 3: mrichter111 ( $140 )
Seat 4: NicoH ( $2450 )
Seat 5: bigdeal74 ( $905 )
Seat 6: Erving6 ( $985 )
Seat 8: matty280 ( $1000 )
Seat 9: rko2008 ( $1685 )
Seat 10: duffer81 ( $1000 )
Seat 2: Hero ( $975 )
Trny:18248001 Level:1
Blinds(10/15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ]
matty280 raises [60].
3 fold
D_Maybe calls [60].
4 fold
** Dealing Flop ** [ 2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ]
matty280 bets [125].
What do I do here??? Is my preflop call fine?
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Old 12-14-2005, 02:04 PM
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Default Re: $109:JJ , level 1

I don't play 109s, but I would reraise at 30s [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img].. I mean he could easily have high cards here. It seems like a touch of an overbet (although not a big overbet) to have a high pair. If I had a high pair in this spot, I would bet 1/2 - 2/3 of the pot. Also, I think he would definitely bet AK, AQ in this spot because of the gutshot with two over cards.

I would not give up so easily in this spot.
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Old 12-14-2005, 02:21 PM
xJMPx xJMPx is offline
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Default Re: $109:JJ , level 1

Pre-flop: I like the call.

Flop: I'd push. There is is t270 in the pot. Any reasonable re-raise is going to commit you to the pot anyway, and you really would hate to get called and have an A/K/Q come on the turn.

If he has AA/KK/QQ that sucks, you'll just have to hit your J on the turn/river. His ~pot size bet on the flop with a relatively safe flop makes me think a higher pair than yours is less likely anyway.
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Old 12-14-2005, 02:23 PM
pineapple888 pineapple888 is offline
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Default Re: $109:JJ , level 1

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Pre-flop: I like the call.

Flop: I'd push. There is is t270 in the pot. Any reasonable re-raise is going to commit you to the pot anyway, and you really would hate to get called and have an A/K/Q come on the turn.

If he has AA/KK/QQ that sucks, you'll just have to hit your J on the turn/river. His ~pot size bet on the flop with a relatively safe flop makes me think a higher pair than yours is less likely anyway.

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Yep.
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Old 12-14-2005, 02:26 PM
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[ QUOTE ]
Pre-flop: I like the call.

Flop: I'd push. There is is t270 in the pot. Any reasonable re-raise is going to commit you to the pot anyway, and you really would hate to get called and have an A/K/Q come on the turn.

If he has AA/KK/QQ that sucks, you'll just have to hit your J on the turn/river. His ~pot size bet on the flop with a relatively safe flop makes me think a higher pair than yours is less likely anyway.

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Bang on. Can you hope for a better flop with JJ (besides a set of course)? He could very likely be semibluffing with a big Ace or a heart draw here.
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Old 12-14-2005, 02:31 PM
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Default Re: $109:JJ , level 1

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Pre-flop: I like the call.

Flop: I'd push. There is is t270 in the pot. Any reasonable re-raise is going to commit you to the pot anyway, and you really would hate to get called and have an A/K/Q come on the turn.

If he has AA/KK/QQ that sucks, you'll just have to hit your J on the turn/river. His ~pot size bet on the flop with a relatively safe flop makes me think a higher pair than yours is less likely anyway.

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Yep.

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Yeah, I think you have to push in this particular situation. There are spots similair where you can cold call, but I don't think that works here. As a bonus it's totally possible to get called by worse pairs; this happens quite a bit IMO.
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