What do you guys think?

ilya · #1 07-13-2005, 01:07 AM

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***** Hand History for Game 2355340517 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $20 Buy-in + $2 Entry Fee Trny:13888929 Level:2 Blinds(15/30) - Wednesday, July 13, 00:58:31 EDT 2005
Table Table 14891 (Real Money)
Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 1: josamart ( $745 )
Seat 8: StneColdCall ( $1850 )
Seat 6: dfunk ( $1450 )
Seat 3: apimp2u ( $905 )
Seat 7: chilly ( $755 )
Seat 2: dedmoney_1 ( $1055 )
Seat 4: loocinda ( $320 )
Seat 5: protonsaga ( $920 )
Trny:13888929 Level:2
Blinds(15/30)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to StneColdCall [ 6s 7s ]
apimp2u folds.
loocinda folds.
protonsaga calls [30].
dfunk calls [30].
chilly folds.
StneColdCall calls [30].
josamart folds.
dedmoney_1 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ac, Qc, Ah ]
dedmoney_1 checks.
protonsaga checks.
dfunk checks.
StneColdCall checks.
** Dealing Turn ** [ Jh ]
dedmoney_1 checks.
protonsaga checks.
dfunk checks.
StneColdCall checks.
** Dealing River ** [ 8s ]
dedmoney_1 bets [30].
protonsaga calls [30].
dfunk folds.
StneColdCall raises [150].

bluefeet · #2 07-13-2005, 01:11 AM

meh...dunno if i have the nads to get this cute L2, but i suspect it would get the job done. smells like a slow ace to me - i'd be folding...nh.

Jman28 · #3 07-13-2005, 01:13 AM

I fold preflop, but I like the bluff... that is, if they are reasonable players.

curtains · #4 07-13-2005, 01:13 AM

I would fold....too scared they will call with queen.

bigt439 · #5 07-13-2005, 01:14 AM

With one player in the pot it is not a good play. With a min better and a caller I think it is an atrocious play. I see this situation over and over again and people call with any piece of the board because they don't want to be bluffed on this suspicious board. At the 20's I wouldn't be surprised if they both call you. What do you put them on? This looks like one of those plays where you think, oh this would be cool to bluff (I do it too for sure), but you have to think about what they have. Sorry, but I really don't like it.

Nottom · #6 07-13-2005, 01:16 AM

The caller actually make it a much better play.

Jman28 · #7 07-13-2005, 01:17 AM

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I fold preflop, but I like the bluff... that is, if they are reasonable players.

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Can I take this back? Is that allowed? I don't like the play anymore.

Someone almost definitely has a face card, and might call with it.

Now I'm not sure again.

It's late. Just push or something.

bigt439 · #8 07-13-2005, 06:03 PM

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The caller actually make it a much better play.

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I really disagree, but I'll hear you out. Why do you think that?

ilya · #9 07-13-2005, 06:11 PM

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The caller actually make it a much better play.

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I really disagree, but I'll hear you out. Why do you think that?

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The caller most likely has a weak hand. He has checked the hand down and has chosen not to raise. It's not likely that he has a hand strong enough to go for an overcall, since he didn't bet earlier.
Since he just called, he must have *something.* Being willing to raise the first guy wouldn't necessarily mean much, since it'd be clear to him that I could be putting him on a bluff. But since I'm raising into someone who's *definitely* not bluffing, my bet seems more credible.

The Yugoslavian · #10 07-13-2005, 06:12 PM

Too many other players were involved with this pot on a scary board. Someone probably will just call you down with a Q or J anyway. Lots of fish get scared on boards like this but once they get all the way to the river, they call anyway if they've hit any part of their hand. If the board was like AA842 this play is better.

Yugoslav