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Old 12-21-2005, 04:13 PM
johnnybeef johnnybeef is offline
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Default $33 Party, QQ post flop.

5th hand in I believe, villain has put money in 2 of them, and doesn't appear to be tricky (but then again that is tough to tell from two hands).



Seat 1: Unibasjoe ( $770 )
Seat 2: Iris62 ( $800 )
Seat 3: JohnnyBeef ( $775 )
Seat 4: cjcorvers ( $960 )
Seat 5: torysad ( $800 )
Seat 6: Troya15 ( $635 )
Seat 7: mcdznuts ( $730 )
Seat 8: Fuglsang7 ( $1060 )
Seat 9: PELEXXX ( $800 )
Seat 10: DrCEast ( $670 )
Trny:18475875 Level:1
Blinds(10/15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to JohnnyBeef [ Qh Qd ]
Troya15 calls [15].
mcdznuts folds.
Fuglsang7 folds.
PELEXXX folds.
DrCEast folds.
Unibasjoe folds.
Iris62 folds.
JohnnyBeef raises [55].
cjcorvers calls [45].
torysad folds.
Troya15 calls [40].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 5s, Ad, Td ]
cjcorvers checks.
Troya15 checks.
JohnnyBeef checks.
** Dealing Turn ** [ 4h ]
cjcorvers checks.
Troya15 checks.
JohnnyBeef bets [125].
cjcorvers folds.
Troya15 calls [125].
** Dealing River ** [ Ac ]
Troya15 checks
JohnnyBeef ??????
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Old 12-21-2005, 04:22 PM
pineapple888 pineapple888 is offline
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Default Re: $33 Party, QQ post flop.

Bet the flop, fold to check-raise.

Check behind on the river, it's highly unlikely that you will get a worse hand to call or a better hand to fold.
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Old 12-21-2005, 04:27 PM
tewall tewall is offline
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Default Re: $33 Party, QQ post flop.

I think you're ahead here much more than behind (when called), so I'd value bet. If raised, I'd call. If someone outplayed me by trapping, then good for them, but most of the time I'd expect to see a smaller pair (or maybe a bluff with two diamonds). Someone who has you beat would have most likely been betting to protect against the flush draw.
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Old 12-21-2005, 04:30 PM
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Default Re: $33 Party, QQ post flop.

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Bet the flop, fold to check-raise.

Check behind on the river, it's highly unlikely that you will get a worse hand to call or a better hand to fold.

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betting this flop is terrible.
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Old 12-21-2005, 04:36 PM
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Default Re: $33 Party, QQ post flop.

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Check behind on the river, it's highly unlikely that you will get a worse hand to call

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What does JT-KT do? How likely are these hands?

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or a better hand to fold.

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Ok this is true
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Old 12-21-2005, 04:37 PM
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Default Re: $33 Party, QQ post flop.

I would bet 60 preflop, but thats is so unimportant.
I check the flop, I would check the turn, and I would check the river.
On youre line I dont see how betting the river is more +ev than checking
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Old 12-21-2005, 04:40 PM
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Default Re: $33 Party, QQ post flop.

Well-played to the river. A thin value bet to the tune of 75 into 400 pot sounds appropriate.
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Old 12-21-2005, 04:40 PM
valenzuela valenzuela is offline
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Default Re: $33 Party, QQ post flop.

A ten might call the turn bet..u know " he is bluffing , he has positon, I aint folding my middle pair".
But I dont see anyone with half a brain calling with a ten after TWO bets, I mean he raised preflop, bet the turn, and bet the river. I dont know whats the skill on the 33s, but from what ive read here they are quite tougher than the 22s.
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Old 12-21-2005, 04:41 PM
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Default Re: $33 Party, QQ post flop.

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Well-played to the river. A thin value bet to the tune of 75 into 400 pot sounds appropriate.

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If Villian will call 75 with a ten he will also call 125-150.
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Old 12-21-2005, 04:44 PM
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Default Re: $33 Party, QQ post flop.

Why?
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