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Old 12-28-2005, 09:49 PM
AllIn3High AllIn3High is offline
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Default party5: Getting back in shape, where did this go wrong?

It's been >50K hands since i've played 6-max limit, and am trying to get back in shape. I'm tilting a bit and have had some wine... trying to play my a-game tho.

MP is loose passive, button is 39/10 after only 38 hands and doesn't seem that aggressive no reads tho. SB is over aggro 30/26 dude that likes to iso-raise loose limpers and shut me out of the pot (he seems to play well tho and "respects me" (meaning he's paying attention and knows i'm TAG))

Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, MP folds, Button calls, SB calls.

Flop: (10 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls, SB calls.

Turn: (6.50 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls, SB folds.

River: (8.50 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font> and hopes button folds???? [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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Old 12-28-2005, 10:51 PM
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Default Re: party5: Getting back in shape, where did this go wrong?

Always a tough position.

The board's not very coordinated on the flop, so I put button on pairing the jack or a pocket pair to have called through the turn. I think the smart play is probably to check fold the river.

BUT.

I always bet call the river just as you did hoping for the fold. Maybe it's wishful thinking, but I figure it doesn't have to happen often at all to make it a good play.

Now that I've contradicted myself, maybe somebody can come along and properly answer your question.


(BTW, that situation just came up with me as I was typing this, and I checked it through on the river only to lose to a paired 4 that might have folded had I bet the river. Did I just contradict my contradiction?)
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Old 12-28-2005, 11:57 PM
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Default Re: party5: Getting back in shape, where did this go wrong?

I'm c/f the turn. You have two callers and no hand. Niether of the callers is so bad that you can assume they're just peeling with anything. I'd also get up before your next BB. that seat sux.
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Old 12-29-2005, 12:14 AM
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Default Re: party5: Getting back in shape, where did this go wrong?

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I'm c/f the turn. You have two callers and no hand. Niether of the callers is so bad that you can assume they're just peeling with anything. I'd also get up before your next BB. that seat sux.

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Old 12-29-2005, 12:28 AM
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Default Re: party5: Getting back in shape, where did this go wrong?

I just call preflop so the hand plays different.

As you played preflop, flop bet is fine. On the turn with two flop callers I'd just check and fold.

This river bet is bad. If your opponent folds you were winning anyway. I prefer check-folding or check-calling, likely check-folding.
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Old 12-29-2005, 07:27 AM
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Yeah, should definitly have checked the turn. If I check, btn bets and sb calls we're definitly continueing right? If yes, river plan is bet/fold A river, bet/call Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] river and bet/raiseraiseraiseraise Qo river yes?

in the hand button called with some pair and i lost


ty for the responses.
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Old 12-29-2005, 09:05 AM
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Default Re: party5: Getting back in shape, where did this go wrong?

Here is a question:

Why are you playing in this game if you're rusty, somewhat tilted and have a delightful wine buzz?

Given your state, the online poker world offers so many other options that are fun and productive.

As far as the hand goes, I think your actions warrant a bullet on the turn.

For the river, it's time to give up. And this is the spot where making the right play is very tough given your condition.

Now I am far from a puritan and perhaps these stakes don't mean much to you, but strong drink plus tilt always keep me from playing serious poker. Micro limit TDL on UB or 5Stud on Prima cry out for my attention.
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Old 12-29-2005, 11:47 AM
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Default Re: party5: Getting back in shape, where did this go wrong?

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Here is a question:

Why are you playing in this game if you're rusty, somewhat tilted and have a delightful wine buzz?

Given your state, the online poker world offers so many other options that are fun and productive.


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b/c i didn't feel like playing my normal game (which is shorthanded NL) and figured i'd brush up on my LHE game and get back in the mindset and have some stuff to think about. I was only slightly lightheaded and I don't mind spending a few BB playing some poker I enjoy and working on my game.


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As far as the hand goes, I think your actions warrant a bullet on the turn.


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I now think betting the turn was a mistake, I'm not getting two opponents to fold and i might have to call a raise if both opponents continue, and putting in two bets here is something i'd rather avoid.
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