Controversy over symbols and racism .

[Jack of Arcades]

It's a private thing that really isn't shown around anyone but her family.

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It's a private thing that really isn't shown around anyone but her family.

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And it's not racism if you keep it to yourself.

[Jack of Arcades]

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Don't get it twisted Jack, there are racists everywhere, and they represent nearly every race in America too. I have seen racist people in Montana, Idaho, WA, OR, and CA.

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I know there are racists everywhere but we're dealing specifically with southern racists. I just think it's really overblown. The racism here might be in general more out in the open but it's more of a begrudging thing, I think. In general I just think down here we get annoyed with other races, but most people don't really hate that many people.

[Jack of Arcades]

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It's a private thing that really isn't shown around anyone but her family.

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And it's not racism if you keep it to yourself.

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Uh... what? Gotta disagree with you there.

[gumpzilla]

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It's a private thing that really isn't shown around anyone but her family.

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And it's not racism if you keep it to yourself.

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Uh... what? Gotta disagree with you there.

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Perhaps I missed your point then. Obviously (perhaps not obviously enough) I was being sarcastic.

[RacersEdge]

Why is everyone so wrapped up in symbols. I think it's silly.

Signed,

Chief Wahoo

[ChipWrecked]

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what a jack ass. Massachusetts is about as liberal a state as they come, and the 2 most popular Red Sox players over the past 10 years have both been Dominican.

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And Boston is also considered a notoriously racist city. Barry Bonds is far from the first person to say this.

[/ QUOTE ]true true true. IIRC, the Red Sox were the last team in the majors with a black player. This doesn't happen by accident.

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Just an extension on this - While the Sox were sticking to their caucasian guns, they chose not to sign Willie Mays, one of the best half-dozen players in history and Bonds' godfather. Probably where BB got the idea.

Gary

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Boston was forced into school desegregation by Judge Arthur Garrity after most of the rest of the country had already done so.

Also, see:

"Divided We Stand. Is Boston Racist?" Boston Magazine

So, you can spare me the ad hominem attacks, if you please, Zod.

[wacki]

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wacki,
its pretty naive of you to think that such a large % of people understand the politics behind the civil war

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Just proving 68% of blacks across the nation and up to 92% of southerners of all races don't see it as a racist symbol. You guys countered my historical arguements with "an evolving meaning of hate". You pulled a 5% figure out of your ass, I countered with a real poll.

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they were given a question. one response makes the respondee sound intelligent and toughtful. the other makes them sound like an idiot. how do you think they would respond?

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are you saying the black people were afraid to answer the poll about a confederate flag? Digging real deep there aren't we?

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As for how many incorrect facts I am going to give, well you're bringing up 1, which I still will support regardless of your poll.

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I'm so glad your opinions carry so much more weight than facts.


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and why is the south SO drastically different than CA if we rebelled because the Federal govt is impeding on our states rights?) that you have not bothered to answer.

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Yes, I have. As I said before, I suggest you read up on why Jefferson Davis never went to trial for treason. The north did not want to lose in court what they won in battle.

Will answer the rest later... food.

[imported_The Vibesman]

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Boston was forced into school desegregation by Judge Arthur Garrity after most of the rest of the country had already done so.

Also, see:

"Divided We Stand. Is Boston Racist?" Boston Magazine

So, you can spare me the ad hominem attacks, if you please, Zod.

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Here's a quote from that article:

Racism in Boston, says Ted Landsmark, the black man being attacked in that famous photo, "is no greater than in New York or Chicago or other American cities."

[kenberman]

I'm not sure what poster I made an ad hominem attack on.

anyway, that article - and the point you mention about bussing - both speak to the same basic fact:

Boston has a spotty history re: race relations, but things have changed a lot in recent times.