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Old 05-05-2005, 01:24 AM
Scuba Chuck Scuba Chuck is offline
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Default Re: Settle an arguement I am having with Rojosox

Before I plug this into Eastbay's computer dealio, my thoughts:

My instincts tell me this is an easy fold. But who knows?

Giving Rojosox's opinion of guy, that he is a terrible player who has never pushed allin, you might have to give him credit here. Furthermore, you gotta figure he has some sort of hand here, as he doesn't want to give BB (shorty) chips/ammo.

I adjusted the stacksizes, and tried to apply the stacks to similar situations and percentages as original.

Button: t2094
Hero: t1858
BB:t601
Blinds 300/600

Hope this is agreeable to everyone.

Results:
t: -9.3%
a: -8.7%
l: -3.8%
m: -1.7%

Numbers reflect my instincts. Good fold.
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Old 05-05-2005, 01:27 AM
The Yugoslavian The Yugoslavian is offline
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Default Re: Settle an arguement I am having with Rojosox

Eastbay's thingydo doesn't really do this situation too well b/c the small stack will call a big % of the time....unless you somehow figured this into eveyrthing (which you didn't, [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]).

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Old 05-05-2005, 01:29 AM
Scuba Chuck Scuba Chuck is offline
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Default Re: Settle an arguement I am having with Rojosox

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Eastbay's thingydo doesn't really do this situation too well b/c the small stack will call a big % of the time....unless you somehow figured this into eveyrthing (which you didn't, ).

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How is this relevant? If BB calls, it makes matters even worse for hero, not better.

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whose glad you pointed this out for me.
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Old 05-05-2005, 01:33 AM
The Yugoslavian The Yugoslavian is offline
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Default Re: Settle an arguement I am having with Rojosox

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Eastbay's thingydo doesn't really do this situation too well b/c the small stack will call a big % of the time....unless you somehow figured this into eveyrthing (which you didn't, ).

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How is this relevant? If BB calls, it makes matters even worse for hero, not better.

Scuba
whose glad you pointed this out for me.

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Or even better... [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img].

My gut says you want shorty up in that bizzatch....but I've spent way too much time thinking about this hand (not much) b/c I'm NOT SUPPOSED TO BE THINKING ABOUT POKER SINCE I'M TAKING A BREAK!!!

Bahhhhhhhhhhhhh! I hate myself.

That is all...

Yugoslav
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Old 05-05-2005, 02:46 AM
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Default Re: Settle an arguement I am having with Rojosox

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I think call is the prudent play here. BB isn't folding in most cases.

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If Hero (who is covered by the button) calls, and BB looks down at his BB shat he can...

(a) Call with his shat against two players who like their hands and hope to win a 3-way pot, or

(b) Fold knowing the button has a reasonable chance of beating Hero, and if that happens he wins $600.

The fishier the player, the more likely they are to "fold and hope." It probably takes a pretty good hand to make it +EV to call, and even then a lot of players wouldn't know better.

I think most BB's fold the vast majority of their hands here when Hero calls (if this were a $33 online SNG or something, maybe not, but there's a lot more $$ at stake here and that scares most people even more).
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Old 05-05-2005, 05:06 AM
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Default Re: Settle an arguement I am having with Rojosox


There is NO way the numbers posted above by Scuba are accurate, especially the notion that it's bad if the BB calls.
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