One more Bellaigo 30/60 move

[goofball]

This wasn't really a bluff or a semibluff. It wasn't pure honesty either. First orbit at the table and MP raises. HJ calls cold and I 3bet from the button with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img](meh?) MP 4bets and we call.

Flop is K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4:heart

MP bets, CO calls, I call.

turn is J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

MP bets, CO calls. I raise planning to bet the river if a K or a nonheart Q came, and fold instantly if 3bet.

[daryn]

i like a cold call preflop. why put more money in?

[DrGutshot]

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and fold instantly if 3bet.

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I'm a bit tipsy and haven't thought all that much about the hand - but I know right off the bat that this part is very ugly - I prefer a call and make 1 bet go in on the river - maybe 2 - read dependent.

-the reason the fold is bad is that you have plenty of outs against an overaggressive AA or somethin

-DrG

[barry.egan]

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-the reason the fold is bad is that you have plenty of outs against an overaggressive AA or somethin
-DrG

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I think you're misreading the board. He has two non-heart Q outs and (hopefully) 2 kings. This is an auto-muck if three-bet.

::edit for spelling

[steveyz]

Well, there's no reason to think anyone has the heart draw. But even if hero has only 4 outs, he'd be correct to call a 3-bet because the pot is huge (14BB+) after a turn raise and 3-bet even if the other caller drops.