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Old 12-19-2005, 03:50 AM
oscark oscark is offline
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Default Party 50....10s not sure where to go on the flop

Ok, I was running great for about a month...and now, well, not so much fun. Early guy raises (30/18/2.6), I three in middle with 1010. He calls and we are heads up.

Flop is AA3 rainbow. He checkraises...what is your plan?

Thanks,

Oscar

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Old 12-19-2005, 04:02 AM
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Default Re: Party 50....10s not sure where to go on the flop

This is a craptastic hand. The guy is mad aggro, but not sure how many small pp he is c/r with or making a complete bluff with if he is FOS.

Against most players I'm folding the turn UI. Against him, calling down is not the worst, but not sure if I like it, and very read dependent.
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Old 12-19-2005, 04:27 AM
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Default Re: Party 50....10s not sure where to go on the flop

i wouldnt fold here ever against this guy, or against most people.
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Old 12-19-2005, 05:38 AM
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Sorry to change subject but I'm interested in your swings. I had a good run at 30/60 level and then had incomprehensibly bad swing playing VERY tight i.e <20 VPIP. I understand bad swings but they shouldn't send you broke I would of thought. So would you be able to detail what kind of swings you've had so I can compare. Also what does x/y/z represent (from pt right?).
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Old 12-19-2005, 06:47 AM
DeeJ DeeJ is offline
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Default Re: Party 50....10s not sure where to go on the flop

Cheesy boring answer for me, which is call down unimproved.

I might fold at the end if I got bet into with 3 overcards to my TT by the river, though. He'll have KQ or 66 or QJ often enough if he's raising 18% of the hands. Pokerstove has you about 45-55 behind a 12% raising range (assuming he's more picky in early position). Gotta be a call down.

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

6,743,288 games 7.719 secs 873,596 games/sec

Board: Ac Ad 3s
Dead:

equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 52.7270 % 52.16% 00.57% { 77+, A9s+, KTs+, QTs+, JTs, ATo+, KJo+ }
Hand 2: 47.2730 % 46.71% 00.57% { TT }
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Old 12-19-2005, 02:29 PM
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Default Re: Party 50....10s not sure where to go on the flop

The guy is to laggy to try to spend a 3rd bet here to get to SD cheaply, and he's obviously capable of betting/raising with a worse hand all the way through here. I like calling down UI.

If he checks the turn, i'm checking behind. If he checks both the turn and the river, i'd bet/call the river.

lf
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Old 12-19-2005, 02:51 PM
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Default Re: Party 50....10s not sure where to go on the flop

People usualy dont try to fold out worse hands when it comes aa3. After he raises in EP and is 3 bet in a full game, it takes a real wild man to checkraise with kq kj qj etc, you can rule those out most of the time. And a pair would usualy just try to get to the showdown cheap. I would fold here almost always.
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Old 12-19-2005, 03:23 PM
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Default Re: Party 50....10s not sure where to go on the flop

I'm wondering how you adjusted opponent's preflop hand range based on his flop check-raise?
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Old 12-19-2005, 03:57 PM
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I put it at 12% in Pokerstove. I have no idea how position sensitive the villain is, so I took a 'reasonable' guess.
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Old 12-20-2005, 06:23 AM
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Default Re: Party 50....10s not sure where to go on the flop

tough spot. i'd like to know how often he goes to showdown so i can put that AF into perspective.

Assuming it's not overly high, I guess I'm inclined to play it like I have an ace, which means either 3-bet and bet the turn, or call and raise the turn. My goal here is to fold a hand like KQ on the turn so he doesn't draw out on the river.

If I think he's crazy (good?) enough to really force the issue without an ace (I've seen hi do it or his SD rate is very high) then I probably just call down, expecting him to have QJ and river a J. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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