2 $100NL hands for review, thanks

[Inch]

ahahaha.. i'm the donk in hand 2.. you rivered me g000t.
Unless it's a hand that is exactly similar to a hand I played.
I should have taken this pot down on the flop with my flopped set of sixes.

[SideCash]

what if turn completes flush after call?

[TheWorstPlayer]

I'm still getting it in. The donk factor inherent in that overbet on the flop means that I want to be all-in with trips here. This guy clearly sucks, let's make him pay. If he actually is good and is only looking like he sucks in order to fool us, then damn, that's why I'm not good at poker. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

[b33nz]

Hand 1-
In the heat of the moment, I think no one would think of folding here. But away from the table, I think you have to lay this down. First if you are deciding to play this hand, you are basically deciding not to fold on whatever comes (other than an Ace maybe). So here you are going to be risking more than 2/3's your stack on a hand you aren't comfortable with. Think about it, what can this guy possibly bet $22 into 3 players with? Probably either trips or a full house. He is hoping someone caught an Ace (that's likely v.s. 3 people) and will pay him off. The only hand I see him have here that you have beaten at the point is 5-4 of diamonds. Also you have to worry about the small chance that either MP players limped in with A2s or AA which can be devastating. This bet is very strange indeed, and I have to agree that this can simply be a mis-click/mis-type or something else that the player did not intend to do.

Hand 2-
I think betting $10 here would probably be the right move. First if he has trouble folding weak hands, then he will pay you off $10 with any three aces and with a straight that he could have been drawing to and got it (7-5s possibly) since you're giving him a good price.
Second, if he has a K or even a Q high flush or a full house then he is most likely going to raise you. It is very hard for anyone to put you on a full house since you backdoored it and played it soft on the turn. This way you bet, he will see that your bet is weak and raise you, and then you can either double his raise to make him most likely pay you off or go all in and try to win the maximum amount.
Also, since you played it soft on the turn and now are putting a weak bet on the river, he might decide to get cute and try to bluff you to laydown a possible mid-flush you might have.

[Chris Dow]

Thanks for the comments guys, my final thoughts:

Hand 1: Given sufficiently long time to think about it, this is a clear push for me. Calling is going to set off a million alarm bells anyway, let's get the money in now. One thing that was not mentioned here but I did consider in the few seconds before pushing is that the "better deuce" is going to be like 29o which is still going to be a pretty heavy favorite to chop with me. Result was that this mega donkey called me fairly quickly with aqs. I certainly thought misclick was very possible here but if it was an ace being stupid it definitely seemed that just going ai was the best way to get him to put any more money in.

Hand #2: I do not like a value bet of less than all-in here. If I come out betting it's going to forecast a hell of a lot of strength and all of you people thinking that the lone king of clubs is going to raise a pot bet are off imo. I do understand and like quite a few of the checkraising options. I think both the king and queen will bet, and any underfull would also bet. I seriously doubt the queen will call a cr, the king might call a check minraise but probably not a push ai, an underfull is probably in trouble and going to have to call. As it turned out my thinking was that the kc might call ai and any underfull would call ai. Plus my vibe during the hand was that he was awfully strong on the turn to check behind after that strong flop call. I assumed he had either improved to the nut flush or a boat on the turn. Given that I went for the gusto on the river and villain, apparently Inch, called with 6's full.

[TheWorstPlayer]

Ni han. Time to revise your read of the guy in hand 1. And I really doubt anyone is getting away from K or Q flush in hand 2 if you c/r. Once they bet, they are PCed.

[PokeHer]

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hand #1 has to be a misclick. i think he meant $2. i guess im pushing


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A MISCLICK?!! how do you figure? the min bet is $2- he doesnt need to type anything or click the sliding tab to bet 2, and it would have to be a series of miclicks for him to bet 22 as he would have to run the little sliding tab up to 22 and then click on raise 22.

the idea that this is a misclick is just absurd, and thinking like that will end up costing you lots of money. how is it that i'm the first one to chew him out for this?

[pmuir10]

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how is it that i'm the first one to chew him out for this?

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because the minimum bet on these tables is $1, so most people type 2

[wslee00]

and you don't have to use the slider - you can actually just type the number into the little box - which is what i do

[TheWorstPlayer]

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and you don't have to use the slider - you can actually just type the number into the little box - which is what i do

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Does anyone not do this? I have never touched the slider in my life and don't plan on it.