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Old 12-26-2005, 09:43 PM
jason_t jason_t is offline
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Default 10/20 KK

No read on villain. The SB is, believe it or not, 18.6/8.62/1.90 over 4000 hands. I [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] the terrible TAGs that infest these games.

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Preflop: I am CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">I 3-bet</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls.

Flop: (10 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">I raise</font>, SB calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 3-bets</font>, I call, SB calls.

Turn: (9.50 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">I raise</font>, SB folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">I cap</font>.
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Old 12-26-2005, 10:05 PM
Victor Victor is offline
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Default Re: 10/20 KK

capping is bad here without a read. your hand just is not, on average, strong enought for 5bb to go in on the turn and river.
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Old 12-26-2005, 10:09 PM
Alex/Mugaaz Alex/Mugaaz is offline
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No read on villain. The SB is, believe it or not, 18.6/8.62/1.90 over 4000 hands. I [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] the terrible TAGs that infest these games.

Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (9 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

Preflop: I am CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">I 3-bet</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls.

Flop: (10 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">I raise</font>, SB calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 3-bets</font>, I call, SB calls.

Turn: (9.50 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">I raise</font>, SB folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">I cap</font>.

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Unless there is something else about this player you're not telling us I don't see any reason to cap this turn.
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Old 12-26-2005, 10:10 PM
geo8o2 geo8o2 is offline
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Default Re: 10/20 KK

u cap? i'm not as good as you, but it seems like you are behind to me.
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Old 12-26-2005, 10:11 PM
Nick Royale Nick Royale is offline
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Default Re: 10/20 KK

I don't think he'll push a draw like AcJc or QQ like this.
AA/JJ/77 are together easily more likely than AcJc/QQ.
Call down from the 3-bet.
Also the cap might expose us for a river check/raise and I would hate not going to a sd against an unknown here.
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Old 12-27-2005, 12:05 AM
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I just call down his 3-bet. It seems to me as though you over played your hand a little unless you know this opponent is VERY aggressive.

SGS
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Old 12-27-2005, 12:19 AM
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if you take lessons from me you will win a lot more money cause you will calm down a little bit probably
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Old 12-27-2005, 12:29 AM
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if you take lessons from me you will win a lot more money cause you will calm down a little bit probably

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Old 12-27-2005, 12:30 AM
ClaytonN ClaytonN is offline
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Default Re: 10/20 KK

this guy is hardly an unknown if jason has 4k hands on him (logged or played with i dunno), but i agree with nick's argument. kinda like the 88 hand from 5/10 sixmax this hand can make sense with a good read, but i dont like capping the turn when you put him on a general range. .
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Old 12-27-2005, 12:38 AM
jason_t jason_t is offline
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Default Re: 10/20 KK

What range of hands do you folks put him on when he didn't cap preflop and bet into me on the flop?
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