Big Blind Special Gets Action

Roland19 · #1 08-23-2005, 02:04 PM

Villian is 25/7/1.5, hasn't done anything crazy silly out of line.

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
2 folds, MP1 calls, 1 fold, MP3 calls, 1 fold, Button calls, 1 fold, Hero checks.

Flop: (4.50 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero bets, MP1 raises, MP3 calls, Button calls, Hero 3-bets, MP1 calls, MP3 calls, Button calls.

Turn: (8.25 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero bets, MP1 folds, MP3 raises, Button folds, Hero calls.

River: (12.25 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP3 bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 14.25 BB

Now, I have been running nasty lately, and I wasn't sure of my play here. I guess the main street of interest is the turn. A raise would quite obviously be spewing, but should this be a fold? Thanks for any and all input.

SeaEagle · #2 08-23-2005, 02:12 PM

I play it like you did. You have to call the turn raise based on your FH outs. If you are making a mistake calling the final river bet in a 13BB pot, it's certainly not a very big mistake.

Roland19 · #3 08-23-2005, 02:27 PM

You're right, I'm an idiot. Getting 12 to 1 or so, the turn is quite an easy call with 4 outs to a boat against a possible flush. So is the river call unimproved standard practice? I realize I only have to be good about 7 to 8 % of the time. What do you guys think? Is this a profitable/standard call on the end? I'm sorry if this is boring, but I've really been questioning my game lately. Once again, thanks.

JerseyTom · #4 08-23-2005, 03:02 PM

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You're right, I'm an idiot. Getting 12 to 1 or so, the turn is quite an easy call with 4 outs to a boat against a possible flush. So is the river call unimproved standard practice? I realize I only have to be good about 7 to 8 % of the time. What do you guys think? Is this a profitable/standard call on the end? I'm sorry if this is boring, but I've really been questioning my game lately. Once again, thanks.

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Yes, you must call the turn and draw to your full house.

River call is probably -EV, but it's close; I don't think you're good 7-8% of the time here. MP3 looks to have the flush (he called 2 on the flop) but even if he doesn't, he has at least 2 pair here (unless he's a complete donk), which certainly beats your 2 pair.

Without a read, I'd probably make a sanity call on the end to see what he's limping preflop and cold-calling the flop with.

Tom