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08-02-2005, 12:37 PM
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KQs (6max) - I cap PF, and butcher it post-flop
<font color="blue">First, I'm sorry about not using the converter, it wouldn't work at all. I formatted it the best I could.
Second, no strong reads yet. I know that SB loves to take shots at scare cards. He's check raised me when 3 to a flush have hit the board, and all he had was Jack high. The rest so far seem to be typically weak-tight. Not sure if capping with KQs was correct here, but I just wanted to build a large pot with my strong hand, and take control of the hand. I know I completely butchered this postflop. So tell me how bad it is. Easy river bet? (notice the board is double-paired)</font> Holdem Normal $1/$2 6 max BRADY - Pocket [Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img],K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]] BRADY - Raises $1 to $2 MP - Folds CO - Raises $2 to $3 Button - Folds SB - Calls $2.50 BB - Calls $2 BRADY - Raises $1 to $4 CO - Calls $1 SB - Calls $1 BB - Calls $1 *** FLOP [4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img],3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img],8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]] *** <font color="blue">4 players, 16 SB</font> SB - Checks BB - Checks BRADY - Checks CO - Checks *** TURN [4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img],3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img],8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img],8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]] ***<font color="blue">4 players, 16 SB</font> SB - Checks BB - Checks BRADY - Checks CO - Bets $2 SB - Calls $2 BB - Folds BRADY - Calls $2 *** RIVER [4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img],3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img],8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img],8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img],3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]] *** <font color="blue">3 players, 11 BB</font> SB - Folds <font color="blue">Hahahaha!</font> BRADY? 
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#2
08-02-2005, 12:47 PM
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Re: KQs (6max) - I cap PF, and butcher it post-flop
i think it looks fine. i dont bet the flop or the turn either- no one is going to fold and we have K high- no bueno. The river is an interesting card. Judging by the PF action and the lack of flop or turn action (a bet and 2 calls isn't much) I think there is a pretty good chance we're going to be good here. With that said, I dont know if it's better to bet/call or c/c. C/C looks ok to me, because if we bet, CO raises and shuts out BB then we've lost an overcall and we might be behind....
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#4
08-02-2005, 12:51 PM
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Re: KQs (6max) - I cap PF, and butcher it post-flop
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BB folded on the turn. After SB open-folds, it's HU between CO and me. [/ QUOTE ] right...you know there is a converter.... i'd just lead then. i'd say there is a great chance he has a higer PP or an A and thinks his hand is good and will call a bet. If he raises I still think we call since I dont know how an 8 or 3 makes its way into his hand after how he played PF. I don't like the idea of c/r since I don't know how often he'll bet this river, since he's most likely thinking it'll be a split (i only see him betting w/ 99< 
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#5
08-02-2005, 12:52 PM
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Re: KQs (6max) - I cap PF, and butcher it post-flop
I am not overkeen on your check/calling on both the flop and turn.
I would have bet the flop with your OC and BDF draw. I think that the pot was big enough to justify a continuation bet. I also would have bet the turn for the same reason as the flop. If anyone 3-bet (suggesting possible trip 8's), I would have called because you still had the 2nd nut flush draw. I would have felt inclined to check/call the river after CO had bet the turn, because otherwise you would have risked being raised if CO had the full-house. Also check/calling would have been more likely to gain you overcalls if your hand was best (assuming that CO bet).
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#6
08-02-2005, 12:53 PM
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Re: KQs (6max) - I cap PF, and butcher it post-flop
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right...you know there is a converter.... [/ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] First, I'm sorry about not using the converter, it wouldn't work at all. I formatted it the best I could. [/ QUOTE ]
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#7
08-02-2005, 12:59 PM
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Re: KQs (6max) - I cap PF, and butcher it post-flop
Given the preflop 3-bet it would be very hard to put CO on an 8 or a 3 here, so I think he's either expecting to split with another ace or has an overpair. I can't imagine him betting with an ace here though as anything that's going to call him is beating or splitting with him so I think you have to bet as it's likely he'd call with ace high and possibly raise with an overpair like AA/KK.
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#8
08-02-2005, 01:02 PM
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Re: KQs (6max) - I cap PF, and butcher it post-flop
I like the flop check btw. No point in betting out here as you have very few outs, are almost always behind, and everyone has odds to call.
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#10
08-02-2005, 01:12 PM
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Re: KQs (6max) - I cap PF, and butcher it post-flop
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[ QUOTE ] right...you know there is a converter.... [/ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] First, I'm sorry about not using the converter, it wouldn't work at all. I formatted it the best I could. [/ QUOTE ] [/ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] i was giving an excuse for my reading error. dont take it personally. [/ QUOTE ]
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