i keep thinking about this hand from a month ago...

[teamdonkey]

was at the final table of a B&M MTT. Weird tournament structure, at the final table the small stack can cash out for their chip value at any time. There's about $7600 on the table and i have about 800 of it with 6 of us left. Here's my account of it from this thread:

"We're down to 6 people (others have busted or cashed out), blinds are 25/50, i have about 800 before posting the BB. CO is the big stack and has been very aggressive, often putting in large raises pre-flop and pot size bets on the flop. My image is tight and inexperienced... i've clearly been looking to chop or cash out since the table started, and have used this image to steal blinds and limps a couple times so far. To be honest i don't remember what i was dealt in the hand, it was not very impressive. Folded to CO who min raises to 100, folded to me and i call with the intention of making a decent sized bet on the flop. Flop is A2A (two spades), i caught none of it. CO bets 200 out of turn, dealer tells him to pull it back... what's my move?"

In case it wasn't clear i'm holding something like 10/6o, with virtually no chance of winning a showdown. I folded here and wasn't that unhappy about it afterwards. But it occurred to me today that this isn't just push or fold... i could just call $200 to stay in the $400 pot. My assumption is this:

-if he has an ace, he bets the turn and i fold
-if he doesn't have an ace, he checks behind, i push the river and he folds

yes? no? do the 2 spades on the board complicate things too much?

[einbert]

I totally disgree with your second assumption. He might very well check behind the turn and then call your push with a hand like QQ-KK.

If you want to take this pot away, leading into it seems to me the best way to attempt that. Just because an aggro player is leading into a pot doesn't mean they will call a bet for the same amount. I don't really like your chances though, you have a pretty small stack compared to the size of the pot and I think he will be inclined to call you down if he does have a decent PP or (obviously) an ace.

You sound very risk-averse about this money. Based on that, I think your best play is to fold and cash out immediately if you are the short stack.

[teamdonkey]

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You sound very risk-averse about this money.

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absolutely. but i'd still like to make the right poker play.

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Based on that, I think your best play is to fold and cash out immediately if you are the short stack.

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the shorty at the table cashed out about an orbit later, and i was able to get out the hand after that.

[A-Baum]

How are the blinds 25/50 at the final table? Did they start at 1/2?

[locutus2002]

Fold.

You are way behind in the hand. You can only win by stealing it. The only stealing method is push the flop.
If you push the flop you are risking T550 to win T450 (~1:1) since you are behind about 1:3 in the hand, then villain has to lay the hand down 75% of the time; way to frequently.

As to the premature bet, I would ignore it. You do not have enough info to decide whether it was an error, or a ploy to get you not to bet.

[teamdonkey]

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How are the blinds 25/50 at the final table? Did they start at 1/2?

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when we got to the final table, they changed the tournament chips for real money chips and distributed them evenly to everyone, and reset the blinds to 5/10. It was really more like 2 separate tournaments back to back, the first one being a sattelite.

[blockafor]

So if no short stacks bought out, the winner would get the entire prize pool?

[teamdonkey]

minus the $100 that went to 11th, yup.