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Old 12-20-2005, 11:14 PM
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Default 5/10 Two pair facing a river bet

Villain sat down three orbits and this is the first hand three handed. Comments on all streets are welcome.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (6 max, 3 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Button ($1000)
SB ($893)
Hero ($1239)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $5.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB (poster) raises to $20</font>, Hero calls $15.

Flop: ($50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $30</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $90</font>, SB calls $60.

Turn: ($230) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $150</font>, SB calls $150.

River: ($530) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $225</font>, Hero?
Final Pot: $980
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Old 12-20-2005, 11:16 PM
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Default Re: 5/10 Two pair facing a river bet

um, call? i dont think youre gonna get value in a raise with bottom two, or bluff him off a hand here
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Old 12-20-2005, 11:18 PM
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Default Re: 5/10 Two pair facing a river bet

raise more on flop
bet more on turn
I think river is a value push..it's hard to put him on a hand that has yours beat, and flush/straight draws missed so it may look like a bluff...and get called by overpair or AhQh or something
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Old 12-20-2005, 11:53 PM
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Default Re: 5/10 Two pair facing a river bet

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raise more on flop
bet more on turn
I think river is a value push..it's hard to put him on a hand that has yours beat, and flush/straight draws missed so it may look like a bluff...and get called by overpair or AhQh or something

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i agree w/ all of this.
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Old 12-20-2005, 11:55 PM
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Default Re: 5/10 Two pair facing a river bet

only hand im too worried about is TQ.
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Old 12-21-2005, 12:00 AM
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Default Re: 5/10 Two pair facing a river bet

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only hand im too worried about is TQ.

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What he said.
To OP:Are you asking If you should call or raise? Not much value in raising. Any reads on villain? What do his minraises mean etc etc..
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Old 12-21-2005, 12:17 AM
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Default Re: 5/10 Two pair facing a river bet

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To OP:Are you asking If you should call or raise? Not much value in raising. Any reads on villain? What do his minraises mean etc etc..

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Raising for value, and as a bluff [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

And no I didnt have any reads to go with.
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Old 12-21-2005, 04:06 PM
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"raise more on flop"

Is that because the preflop raiser's flop bet is so small? I would most likely just call on the flop.
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Old 12-21-2005, 04:20 PM
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only hand im too worried about is TQ.

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What he said.
To OP:Are you asking If you should call or raise? Not much value in raising. Any reads on villain? What do his minraises mean etc etc..

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The value in raising comes from getting called by something like AhQh, especially with the missed draws out there, as was said already. I'm not sure that it is worth the times you are behind to QT though, close I guess. I would value raise sometimes here read dependant.
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