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Old 12-23-2004, 01:52 AM
david050173 david050173 is offline
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I withdrawal around $500 every 2 weeks. I doubt this will raise any red flags IF I decide to not report my income. On the slim chance that I do get audited, will they come to me with my bank statements and say "So, we see these transfers from Neteller....." Do they even have access to this information? I mean, it's not like I'm driving around in a Bentley while I work at my $40K/year job.

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I am definitely not an expert but it seems to be pretty trivial for some one at the IRS to decide neteller is used mainly for gambling so it might be a good idea to track that money. Set a filter to determine if you net in is greater than 25% of your salary and I have some returns I want to give extra love to. I am guessing for banks this is pretty technically easy. Can the IRS get this info without a court order? No idea. Given that the neteller debit card goes through the standard ATM networks, I am guessing tracking that wouldn't be hard(technically) either. It seems like money laundering is something that OC spent a lot time thinking about and I bet the feds have devised tons of ways to track it down.
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Old 12-23-2004, 01:56 AM
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The IRS can't include your online accounts in an audit?

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Do you think PartyPoker (a non-US company) cooperates with IRS? Call them up and ask. They will you assure you that they will not give your records to anyone, including the IRS. Of course you can choose not to believe them, but I don't see any reason not to. They have everything to lose and nothing to gain by cooperating with our government.

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This is wrong as it would be trivial for the US to prevent(technically make it really hard for the average user) access to party servers so party has a lot to gain by not offending the US. If you get investigated your in trouble. But the odds of that are low for most people
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Old 12-23-2004, 02:16 AM
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You're always gonna have problems lifting a body in one piece. Apparently the best thing to do is cut up a corpse into six pieces and pile it all together. And when you got your six pieces, you gotta get rid of them, because it's no good leaving it in the deep freeze for your mum to discover, now is it? Then I hear the best thing to do is feed them to pigs. You got to starve the pigs for a few days, then the sight of a chopped-up body will look like curry to a pisshead. You gotta shave the heads of your victims, and pull the teeth out for the sake of the piggies' digestion. You could do this afterwards, of course, but you don't want to go sievin' through pig [censored], now do you? They will go through bone like butter. You need at least sixteen pigs to finish the job in one sitting, so be wary of any man who keeps a pig farm. They will go through a body that weighs 200 pounds in about eight minutes. That means that a single pig can consume two pounds of uncooked flesh every minute. Hence the expression, "as greedy as a pig."

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Old 12-23-2004, 02:26 AM
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About the ATM business...
I read something just within the last 2 weeks about the IRS was specifically cracking down on people withdrawing cash from offshore accounts using debit cards for tax evasion purposes. I believe the actual announcement was much older than two weeks. The original purpose of the statement was to allow evaders to become compliant with no criminal charges, "only" late fees, if they would name names of whoever set up the account for them.

May have only extended to visa/mastercard, my memory of the subject is sort of hazy. I'd provide the link but i'm a little bit too lazy to the google search.

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Old 12-23-2004, 03:32 AM
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You're always gonna have problems lifting a body in one piece. Apparently the best thing to do is cut up a corpse into six pieces and pile it all together. And when you got your six pieces, you gotta get rid of them, because it's no good leaving it in the deep freeze for your mum to discover, now is it? Then I hear the best thing to do is feed them to pigs. You got to starve the pigs for a few days, then the sight of a chopped-up body will look like curry to a pisshead. You gotta shave the heads of your victims, and pull the teeth out for the sake of the piggies' digestion. You could do this afterwards, of course, but you don't want to go sievin' through pig [censored], now do you? They will go through bone like butter. You need at least sixteen pigs to finish the job in one sitting, so be wary of any man who keeps a pig farm. They will go through a body that weighs 200 pounds in about eight minutes. That means that a single pig can consume two pounds of uncooked flesh every minute. Hence the expression, "as greedy as a pig."

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Ok, how many times have you seen Snatch?

As for taxes, long live "gambling-winnings are tax-free" Canada
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Old 12-23-2004, 03:46 AM
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Nice.

Between people like you and terrorists like Mohammed Atta, it's only a matter of time before the feds ban the electronic transfer of funds to U.S. citizens from Neteller.
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Old 12-23-2004, 03:52 AM
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They have everything to lose and nothing to gain by cooperating with our government.

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Oh, really?

In case you didn't know, Party Poker spends over $2 million per year on their Washington D.C. lobbyists. They want to maintain a very good relationship with the U.S. government, since over 75% of their customer base is located in the U.S.
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Old 12-23-2004, 03:57 AM
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I played HE with a guy a casino one time who asked a lawyer about reducing the amount of taxes he had to pay on his winnings. The lawyer told him to withdraw a bunch of money from an ATM every time he went to the casino and keep a receipt for it. With cash payouts, there is no way the IRS could prove that you DIDN'T lose the money gambling.
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Old 12-23-2004, 04:04 AM
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I played HE with a guy a casino one time who asked a lawyer about reducing the amount of taxes he had to pay on his winnings. The lawyer told him to withdraw a bunch of money from an ATM every time he went to the casino and keep a receipt for it. With cash payouts, there is no way the IRS could prove that you DIDN'T lose the money gambling.

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That seems a bit sketchy/urban legendish. Lawyers get disbarred for recommeding illegal actions to thier clients. Not to mention in tax court, the burden of proof for a lot things are with the taxpayer not the irs.
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Old 12-23-2004, 04:05 AM
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Between people like you and terrorists like Mohammed Atta

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I understand what you are getting at, but it is a gross exaggeration. He is nothing like Mohammed Atta, and it makes me physically ill that you would make ANY kind of connection between the two individuals. The nature of your insult was veiled, but it's there.

Names and insults of that nature shouldn't be hurled about like they mean nothing. [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]
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