Am I a fish?

[wslee00]

oops - sorry - he was in LP

and i don't know why i said A8 - can't really put him on that for a raise

[djoyce003]

well you played it fishy but he played it far far worse.

[jonnyUCB]

Calling his flop raise is debatable. Just depends of your read of the situation/villian (how often will he do this with just one pair? - some villians like the min-raise as an info-gainer with position).

Probably a matter of style here, but when I hit the flop good but not great, I like to lead small (like 2 into the 5 pot). You dont want to get blown away by a huge raise when you have a draw you would like to see through. I think youre paying too much to see the turn card as played.

[Cased Heel]

Don't fold 3 orbits in a row just to open-raise 4xbb with 7h9h.

This makes you a fish, yes.

Remember, suited connectors don't have as much value against few opponents. Don't play 79h like a limit hand here! It's COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. If you're trying to steal, that's one thing. But please don't raise this in the cutoff anymore. Just don't do it.

I'd rather open-raise K2s in first position at a 6-handed table than 79s in the cutoff.

[kongo_totte]

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Don't fold 3 orbits in a row just to open-raise 4xbb with 7h9h.

This makes you a fish, yes.

Remember, suited connectors don't have as much value against few opponents. Don't play 79h like a limit hand here! It's COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. If you're trying to steal, that's one thing. But please don't raise this in the cutoff anymore. Just don't do it.

I'd rather open-raise K2s in first position at a 6-handed table than 79s in the cutoff.

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I don't agree.

[Cased Heel]

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Don't fold 3 orbits in a row just to open-raise 4xbb with 7h9h.

This makes you a fish, yes.

Remember, suited connectors don't have as much value against few opponents. Don't play 79h like a limit hand here! It's COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. If you're trying to steal, that's one thing. But please don't raise this in the cutoff anymore. Just don't do it.

I'd rather open-raise K2s in first position at a 6-handed table than 79s in the cutoff.

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I don't agree.

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With what? Please explain.

[kongo_totte]

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Don't fold 3 orbits in a row just to open-raise 4xbb with 7h9h.

This makes you a fish, yes.

Remember, suited connectors don't have as much value against few opponents. Don't play 79h like a limit hand here! It's COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. If you're trying to steal, that's one thing. But please don't raise this in the cutoff anymore. Just don't do it.

I'd rather open-raise K2s in first position at a 6-handed table than 79s in the cutoff.

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I don't agree.

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With what? Please explain.

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That open raising 9 7s in the CO occasionally is a bad idea.

Basically,. I don't agree with anything in your post. I, and from what I read on this board alot of other players, sometimes raise suited gappers in LP, especially when there are few to non limpers (improves the chance of picking up the blinds) If I only raise high PP:s and AK-AJ I'll be very easy to read. And yes, my pre-flop raise is meant as a steal, but that didn't work, so I'll have to take it from there.

If there is one thing in this hand that makes me a fish it's the flop call, not the pre-flop raise.

And basically I don't see why my play would be more suited in limit. Suited connectors and gappers are in my experience better NL hands than Limit.

EDIT: one more thing. I think the fact that I hade folded three orbits in the row should make me more likely to raise a hand like this pre-flop since my tight image should make them put me on a better hand.

[joecacti]

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EDIT: one more thing. I think the fact that I had folded three orbits in the row should make me more likely to raise a hand like this pre-flop since my tight image should make them put me on a better hand.

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Well, now you've projected that you have a better hand. Now imagine that you're the villian, he puts you on a premium hand, and the way you're betting it, something like TT-AA. What does he have that he's pushing with?

I don't think it's necessarily a bad play pre-flop. But out of position, you'll start to wonder if he's pushing you around. Your ego might get involved and demand that you call. Just release all of those decisions pre-flop. Maybe just limp in?

[kongo_totte]

How on earth can limping a suited gapper first in in the CO be better than raising?

Also, the fact that he had to put me on an over pair post flop was one of the reasons I played it like I did. But still, I'm very uncertain if I played it right post-flop or not.

[joecacti]

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How on earth can limping a suited gapper first in in the CO be better than raising?

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It depends upon your motivations. Raising with suited one gappers, your motivations were to 1) Steal the Blinds, and barring that, 2) hit a str8 and/or flush draw. Good strategy, either you take it down preflop or get a decent draw. In this case, you failed to get away postflop with TPPK.

Now, my motivations limping with one gappers are: 1) Information. I am the first to act, and I can get at least some sort of info (SB minraises, etc), and have a chance to fold cards that could be at best behind, and at worst dominated. 2) It's a drawing hand, and I want more people in the pot when I'm drawing so that someone will be left when I hit. I'm a little fuzzy on number 2, anyone care to elaborate?

That's how I see suited one gappers. Caveat: I understand your play and might even take the same line; I'm just being critical here for discussion purposes. Good Luck.