Cap or fold?

casinogosain · #1 09-06-2005, 03:52 PM

Live 10/20 in NYC this past weekend. First time playing at this location; this is my third orbit at the table. EMP has played every hand, the button has played every other.

EMP limps, I raise A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] in the HJ, Button calls, BB calls, EMP calls. (9 SBs)

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
BB checks, EMP checks, I bet, Button raises, BB 3-bets, EMP folds, I ?

-Ash

Dariel86 · #2 09-06-2005, 04:20 PM

Fold

Nick C · #3 09-06-2005, 04:33 PM

I would probably cold-call, actually.

It's an uncomfortable situation, though, because you're basically hoping for a miracle card or at least to pick up a flush draw. And if Button doesn't slow down, picking up a flush draw on the turn would in fact be sort of a mixed blessing.

In any event, I don't like capping. I doubt our overcard is worth much of anything. I suppose BB could have KT, but I think two pair, a set, or a straight is much more likely.

Edit: Ugh. I missed the double-gutter. So, anyway, I don't think we're looking for a miracle so much anymore, but I do think we're often chopping if we catch a 9.

I still like just calling. I prefer capping to folding, though.

Redd · #4 09-06-2005, 04:33 PM

With a double-gutter and BD-nut draw, why not just call?

#5 09-06-2005, 04:35 PM

Easy call. 4 outs to the nuts. 4 more to a very probable winner. Turn might also add a nut flush draw.

SeaEagle · #6 09-06-2005, 05:09 PM

Easy cold call. You're getting 8-1 if it doesn't get capped and 6-1 if it does. You have something like 9 outs.

I'd raise if I could get a free card or get button to fold, but I don't see either of those two things happening.

SoSo · #7 09-06-2005, 05:15 PM

Cap it and then raise any spade turn.

SeaEagle · #8 09-06-2005, 05:21 PM

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I'm a bit skeptical of charging yourself to draw.

SoSo · #9 09-06-2005, 05:43 PM

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i don't get it.

brazilio · #10 09-06-2005, 05:48 PM

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i don't get it.

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Knocking an opponent out even though we're drawing to something like a 45% draw kind of sucks, 3-way after a bet/call situation I like a raise.