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10-12-2005, 09:38 AM
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100/200 9Ts
5 handed 100/200. I raise 9hTh utg. A loose, fishy player cold calls. A solid player 3 bets on the button, both blinds fold. I call, fish calls.
Flop 987 with 2 clubs. I check, fish checks, solid players bets, I call, fish checkraises. We both call. I really wasn't sure what to do on the flop. Turn is a small club, either a 2 or a 3. Check, bet, call, call. River is the 6c, giving me a straight but putting 4 clubs on board. Check, check, and now the preflop 3 bettor bets. Am I calling here? Did I put myself in a bad position by playing my hand so weakly on earlier streets? 
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#4
10-12-2005, 09:56 AM
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Re: 100/200 9Ts
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[ QUOTE ] Woa how can you not CR the flop?? [/ QUOTE ] he didn't want to lose the fish and be HU OOP w/ a solid player on the later streets. Barron [/ QUOTE ] Are you telling me that you also don't CR the flop??
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#5
10-12-2005, 10:28 AM
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Re: 100/200 9Ts
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[ QUOTE ] Woa how can you not CR the flop?? [/ QUOTE ] he didn't want to lose the fish and be HU OOP w/ a solid player on the later streets. Barron [/ QUOTE ] In many hands this would be a legitimate consideration, but I don't think that's applicable here. With this flop and the size of the pot, you're going to the river, and most likely showdown. Once you've decided this, then the proper thing to do is to try to increase your chances of winning the pot, by raising out the third guy, EVEN if he is a fish and EVEN if there's a good chance you'll be reraised. Keep in mind that getting reraised isn't the worst thing in the world since you have 8 outs for the straight, 2 outs for trips and likely 3 outs for two-pair (especially if the third guy goes out). With 2 cards to come, you're almost even money heads up. And if the fish calls, and the other guy reraises, you're still getting proper return with 11 outs. So reraising is a no-brainer. Plus there is some chance that you have the best hand. And if you don't want to play heads-up against the tough guy, you can simply back off and check and call the rest of the way after the fish is gone. I'm sorry, but failure to checkraise that flop is such a glaring mistake that I can't even get to the rest of the play of the hand.
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#6
10-12-2005, 11:11 AM
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Re: 100/200 9Ts
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I'm sorry, but failure to checkraise that flop is such a glaring mistake that I can't even get to the rest of the play of the hand. [/ QUOTE ] i think thats a pretty big overstatement.
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#7
10-12-2005, 11:22 AM
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Re: 100/200 9Ts
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[ QUOTE ] Woa how can you not CR the flop?? [/ QUOTE ] he didn't want to lose the fish and be HU OOP w/ a solid player on the later streets. Barron [/ QUOTE ] Pot is getting mighty large, fish could have anything and losing him is not a problem imo. Our hand is still very vulnerable.
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#8
10-12-2005, 11:28 AM
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Re: 100/200 9Ts
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he didn't want to lose the fish and be HU OOP w/ a solid player on the later streets. Barron [/ QUOTE ] so he would rather play a multiway pot OOP against that same solid player and a fish? Then when he finally gets to use the fish for protection on the river he doesn't use it?
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#10
10-12-2005, 09:55 AM
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Re: 100/200 9Ts
i would call river and likely play the entire hand the same way you did.
you could have raise on the flop or turn, but then you would have had to make a post like "was this chip spewing cause the guy 3 bet me"
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