What does it take to make you fold KK pf?

#1 11-25-2005, 03:25 AM

If I see a raise, re-raise, and another re-raise all before it comes to me I would CONSIDER folding KK. Even vs. a raise and re-raise there are just too many other hands that could be villian's holding to make KK a reasonable fold.

I mean, I know that I re-raise w/ JJ, Q, AK (and of course KK and AA) to isolate a pot.

Or is there really no exception and all the money should try to get into the pot PF w/ KK?

I ask this because I just lost KK to AA twice within like 5 hands (luckily only at the NL25) and someone was criticizing my play saying I should have laid down the KK pf and that he lays KK down on a regular basis to a storng re-raise.

I just don't think folding KK is good in any scenario, but the real question is what do YOU guys think?

Thanks

amoeba · #2 11-25-2005, 03:27 AM

not laying down KK at nl25 is fine.

preflop 4 bet is usually AA/KK though and if you hold KK then its probably a fold.

BlackRain · #3 11-25-2005, 03:31 AM

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If I see a raise, re-raise, and another re-raise all before it comes to me I would CONSIDER folding KK. Even vs. a raise and re-raise there are just too many other hands that could be villian's holding to make KK a reasonable fold.

I mean, I know that I re-raise w/ JJ, Q, AK (and of course KK and AA) to isolate a pot.

Or is there really no exception and all the money should try to get into the pot PF w/ KK?

I ask this because I just lost KK to AA twice within like 5 hands (luckily only at the NL25) and someone was criticizing my play saying I should have laid down the KK pf and that he lays KK down on a regular basis to a storng re-raise.

I just don't think folding KK is good in any scenario, but the real question is what do YOU guys think?

Thanks

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This has been discussed a lot. I think you will find some links in the FAQ. I think it really depends on the player or players you are against. I've only done it once and it was only against one person preflop. He was clearly a TAG in my mind, we were both deepstacked and it was the 4th raise preflop where he went all in.