There is a right and a wrong way to do it....

Photoc · #1 10-19-2005, 02:11 AM

I see posts on here lately about which room people like, what feels good, what was designed well, and so on.

Why casinos keep opening up new rooms with lackluster efforts is confusing and driving me nuts. I'm sure lots of players feel the same way.

Here are just 2 quick examples of new poker rooms. This is my opinion on the right and wrong ways. Room names are being left out to protect the innocent.

Wrong:

Right:

daryn · #2 10-19-2005, 02:47 AM

paris and wynn?

MicroBob · #3 10-19-2005, 02:49 AM

yeah. that's what i thought anyway.

Photoc · #4 10-19-2005, 02:57 AM

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Yes. But there are many more examples out there.

MicroBob · #5 10-19-2005, 03:12 AM

In Tunica, Miss. the Horseshoe already had the best 'room' but there were problems stemming from the fact that it was built several years ago.
It was now too crowded, and too near the band that plays at the video-poker bar.

They built a new room in the back and really did it right imo.
It's not exactly the Wynn. but there is PLENTY of space to move around amongst the 16 tables there.

The Gold Strike next door is evidently following suit and is revamping their room so i've been told.
It was previously just a few poker-tables amongst a bunch of slot-machines which was obviously quite stupid and annoying.

So there are a couple of examples out here of rooms that are making improvements.
not 100% amazing/terrific or anything....but at least putting money into making the room better.

It looks like they just through some tables out on the side-floor at the new Paris 'room' and then threw a guard-rail around it (I haven't seen this room in person yet).
Obviously space considerations are probably part of the problem for these places that didn't have poker-rooms when they originally opened the casino.

Also possible that management somewhere along the lines is saying "Okay...well, before we put TOO much money into this...lets just open up something functional and see how it goes. And we'll keep tentative plans to make space to open and build a fancier room later on."
Something like that anyway.

Of course, they could just build the room now....and if it turns out that poker stops being a good use of space for them they can just turn that area into a high-roller room or snack-bar or whatever the hell they want.

chesspain · #6 10-19-2005, 05:58 PM

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I could have sworn that the bottom picture was from the Monte Carlo.

idrinkcoors · #7 10-19-2005, 06:02 PM

You can tell that the Paris Hotel/Casino was built prior to the poker boom. That "card room" is a couple of tables thrown in near the slots. Although the posts about the open rooms getting more fish are probably right.

Photoc · #8 10-19-2005, 08:47 PM

Bottom pic is the Wynn, trust me.

MC isn't that big.

Randy_Refeld · #9 10-19-2005, 03:38 AM

I am probably in the minority here, but I feel the "nice" rooms are intimidating. I like for the poker room to feel very accessible, it shoudl not look like the sort of places you have to be quiet in.

When I worked in Vegas we had a long rail and when someoen would be standing there watchign we would go over and invite them to come in. Sometimes as we woudl approach they would start moving away because they assumed you we goign to tell them you couldn't stand there. We had a flooorman that was a dead ringer for Walter Mathau (no idea how to spell his name) and we woud make fun of him becasue he woudl start chasing people through the casino from the rail when they tried to get away without talking to him.

I have not seen the new room at the Horseshoe (Tunica), but I always like that the band was loud in there. A lot of players (as far back as late 90s before I moved west) complained about the noise, but I have always believed anything that makes the poker room feel like a fun place is good for attracting new players.

Looking at the pics of the poker "rooms" above, the one at Paris looks like the games would be better. I was once playing in a small room in Vegas and a woman sat down and asked if anyone would mind if she played since she had never palyed before and the players had jsut yelled at her for playing bad at blackjack. The room at Wynn (and other nice rooms) may make this sort of palyer afraid to sit down and play.

slavic · #10 10-19-2005, 04:11 AM

Randy -

Your post is brilliant. I hate the poker rooms that are isolated, most of them are a little nicer but the action just isn't as good. Some of the best games I've been in were at noisey open rooms were I was playing hold'em on a stud table. I don't mind people who play hold'em like video poker.