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Old 06-04-2005, 08:47 AM
theredpill6 theredpill6 is offline
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Default KJo , out of position. Fishy can\'t fold his trips

I told fishy, "congratulations " on this one. He replied that if I bet bigger on the flop, he would have folded. Why so I can telegraph that I have a good hand ? How did I play it ? Do you like the river play ?

Fishy is 50 /20 VPIP . I might lay it down on the turn to a 19/5 VPIP player but not to this guy.

Texas Hold'em $0.25-$0.50 NL (real money)


Seat 1: Bexy
Seat 2: Gaborit
Seat 3: wassdoin
Seat 4: shug2
Seat 5: Hero [ K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ]
Seat 6: annobon2k
Seat 7: AnnoyingPeon
Seat 8: Ninja Cuddle
Seat 9: scubasam1
Seat 10: BudMiller1
ANTES/BLINDS
Gaborit posts blind ($0.15), wassdoin posts blind ($0.25), shug2 posts blind ($0.25).

PRE-FLOP
shug2 checks, Hero calls $0.25, annobon2k folds, AnnoyingPeon folds, Ninja Cuddle calls $0.25, scubasam1 calls $0.25, BudMiller1 folds, Bexy folds, Gaborit calls $0.10, wassdoin checks.

FLOP [board cards 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ] pot=1.50
Gaborit checks, wassdoin checks, shug2 checks, Hero bets $1, Ninja Cuddle folds, scubasam1 calls $1, Gaborit folds, wassdoin folds, shug2 folds.

TURN [board cards 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img],K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]]
Hero bets $2, scubasam1 bets $6, Hero calls $4.

RIVER [board cards 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img],K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ]
Hero checks, scubasam1 bets $6, Hero calls $6.

SHOWDOWN
scubasam1 shows [ 9C,KD ]
Hero mucks cards [ KC,JH ]
scubasam1 wins $26.15.

SUMMARY
Dealer: Bexy
Pot: $27.50 | Rake: $1.35
Bexy loses $0
Gaborit loses $0.25
wassdoin loses $0.25
shug2 loses $0.25
Hero loses $13.25
annobon2k loses $0
AnnoyingPeon loses $0
Ninja Cuddle loses $0.25
scubasam1 bets $13.25, collects $26.15, net $12.90
BudMiller1 loses $0
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Old 06-04-2005, 08:50 AM
theredpill6 theredpill6 is offline
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Default Re: KJo , out of position. Fishy can\'t fold his trips

I checked my PT stats and it does show that I'm making + .14 BB/100 on K J o over 157 times that I've gotten it so I must be doing something right with it.

However, did I use this players(fishy's) stats to justify a river call that I shouldn't have made ?
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Old 06-04-2005, 09:02 AM
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Default Re: KJo , out of position. Fishy can\'t fold his trips

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I checked my PT stats and it does show that I'm making + .14 BB/100 on K J o over 157 times that I've gotten it so I must be doing something right with it.

However, did I use this players(fishy's) stats to justify a river call that I shouldn't have made ?

[/ QUOTE ]

you are weak-tight and way too results-oriented.
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Old 06-04-2005, 09:04 AM
theredpill6 theredpill6 is offline
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Default Re: KJo , out of position. Fishy can\'t fold his trips

I'm weak-tight ?

You're gay. Now tell me what I did wrong. Quit going around name-calling and start giving some good advice.
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Old 06-04-2005, 09:15 AM
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Default Re: KJo , out of position. Fishy can\'t fold his trips

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I'm weak-tight ?

You're gay. Now tell me what I did wrong. Quit going around name-calling and start giving some good advice.

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you play too tightly and passively with your good hands. stop doing that. there's your good advice.

i'd give you a better way to play this hand, but you obviously aren't ready for that as evidenced by the other hands you post and your reaction to my advice. so for now maybe i'll just give you vague criticism in the hopes that someday it might start to sink in.

if he showed KT, would you be posting this hand and saying you might have folded on the turn or asking about folding the river? thats why i called you results-oriented.
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Old 06-04-2005, 09:39 AM
theredpill6 theredpill6 is offline
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Default Re: KJo , out of position. Fishy can\'t fold his trips

Did I play it right or not ? What a worthless forum this is.

So I should reraise all-in to his raise on the turn. That'd be really stupid. Do you see why ?
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Old 06-04-2005, 09:44 AM
theredpill6 theredpill6 is offline
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Default Re: KJo , out of position. Fishy can\'t fold his trips

Give me a better way to play the hand you son of a bitch.
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Old 06-04-2005, 09:47 AM
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Default Re: KJo , out of position. Fishy can\'t fold his trips

woops, wrong thread
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Old 06-04-2005, 09:49 AM
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Default Re: KJo , out of position. Fishy can\'t fold his trips

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Did I play it right or not ? What a worthless forum this is.

So I should reraise all-in to his raise on the turn. That'd be really stupid. Do you see why ?

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this forum is worthless to people who aren't capable of making use of it.

you left out stack sizes which are kind of important.

like i said when you post hands and ask for specific advice you usually end up saying something like "[censored] you, i played right" so for now, you are too weak-tight and too results-oriented.
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Old 06-04-2005, 09:51 AM
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Default Re: KJo , out of position. Fishy can\'t fold his trips

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Now tell me what I did wrong. Quit going around name-calling and start giving some good advice.

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1) fold preflop. I usually hate people saying this, but UTG+1 at a full table? fold KJo.
2) flop bet = good. Bigger bet is also ok, with 6-handed flop.
3)turn: raise his 6 to 15 or so. Get it all in if you can

Please do not tell me that it would be stupid to get all the money in on the turn. Jack is not the worst kicker, and you cannot honestly be scared of a full house every time. If you wanna be results-oriented? You were ahead on the turn, so getting it all in couldn't possibly be wrong.

Also see this thread, started by me. Same situation.
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