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#12
10-19-2005, 05:22 PM
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Re: JJ - agonizing river fold
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Seeing as how you don't have a strong hand and you might be put to a tough test on the river, I think checking this turn is the right play. [/ QUOTE ] Interesting. How much of a bet would you call on the turn? 
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#13
10-19-2005, 05:36 PM
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Re: JJ - agonizing river fold
Half a pot. In my experience people will bet flush draws if you check the turn, but tend to bet them lightly. I agree with Xorbie that checking the turn is the correct play. You must call this river if you're going to check it.
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#14
10-19-2005, 05:47 PM
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Re: JJ - agonizing river fold
This might get flamed for being "weak," but I c/f the turn most times here. He called a preflop raise without reraising with no other callers, so I figure him for big cards (normally AK, AQ, or KQ). He might have 10-10 or 9-9, but who knows. More times than not he has the queen when he calls the flop bet, I think. And even if he doesn't have the queen, he's probably got a lot of outs. The reality is that your hand is very marginal at this point. You have a caller on the flop who has position on you; there's a queen overcard; and there are two draws (though I would think only the FD is likely). Even if you have the best hand, it's going to be very difficult for you to play it profitably. So I just c/f the turn. No reason to put a lot more money in here.
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#15
10-19-2005, 05:49 PM
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Re: JJ - agonizing river fold
And I wouldn't feel bad about folding the best hand here either. I couldn't care less. I'm c/f the turn here thinking that I'm folding the best hand probably half the time. But I also fold pocket twos to a preflop raise thinking I'm folding the best hand plenty of times...
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