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Old 12-13-2005, 03:51 PM
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Party Poker 15/30 Hold'em (9 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 folds, Button calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, SB calls.

Turn: (6 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: 6 BB
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Old 12-13-2005, 04:00 PM
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Gahhhhh.
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Old 12-13-2005, 04:04 PM
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Call pre flop. Seriously.
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Old 12-13-2005, 04:29 PM
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Call pre flop. Seriously.

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Absolutely. Given the button raise you don't have much to fear from being capped, meaning you're paying 1BB into a 4.5BB pot; odds of flopping a set are 7.5:1, all you need to do is pick up 3.0BB if you hit. (Yes, you won't win every time you hit, but on the other hand your 33 will win UI some of the time.)

At worst this is a tiny tiny bit -EV, and you show the SB that he cannot easily isolate button/CO raises.
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Old 12-13-2005, 06:20 PM
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I felt the same way with this one:

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Preflop: Hero is CO with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (12.50 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 3-bets</font>, Button calls, BB calls, UTG calls.

Turn: (12.25 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, Button calls, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 3-bets</font>, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG caps</font>, MP3 calls, Button calls.

River: (24.25 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, UTG calls, MP3 calls.

Final Pot: 28.37 BB

Results:
UTG has As Kh (three of a kind, aces).
MP3 has Ah Kc (three of a kind, aces).
Button has 7d 7c (full house, sevens full of aces).
Outcome: Button wins 28.37 BB.
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Old 12-13-2005, 06:33 PM
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Call pre flop. Seriously.

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Old 12-13-2005, 09:10 PM
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Call pre flop. Seriously.

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Fine, I listened:

Party Poker 15/30 Hold'em (10 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (9.66 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Hero calls, MP2 calls.

Turn: (7.83 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 calls, CO calls.

River: (10.83 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 folds, CO calls.

Final Pot: 12.83 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has 3d 3c (straight flush, six high).
CO has 7s 7h (two pair, sevens and twos).
Outcome: Hero wins 12.83 BB. </font>
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